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Well with the savagely frayed state of the social safety net if you're not born rich, basically if you can't find work in California you're unlikely to get food

Well with the savagely frayed state of the social safety net if you're not born rich, basically if you can't find work in California you're unlikely to get food stamps especially if you are able bodied and healthy otherwise than having the illness of having been born in the US past the date of 1965.

chii 4y ago
> especially if you are able bodied and healthy if you're abled bodied, and healthy, why should society bear a burden of giving you resources to live off long term? To exist means to locate the resources to live (such as food, shelter, etc). These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old, and thus, the allocation of these resources must come from a mechanism we call market and employment today. A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently. However, on the side of medical care, i do believe that universal medical care is more efficient, and cuts out as much middleman as possible.
- 7speter 4y ago
  > A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently Oh you mean get a job now when employers are just collecting resumes for “talent pipelines” they can hire from at some future date, or just to improve morale of their current overworked employees? And what if you’re an able bodied caretaker for a family member who is ill, disabled, or just elderly?
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    Unemployment is incredibly low - besides which you can always train to be an ironworker. Make it to journeyman and it's just a matter of not fucking it up.
- s5300 4y ago
  >> A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job Or the time it takes to rehabilitate somebody with a fairly severe musculoskeletal disorder, especially when they’ve otherwise had $100k of various scholarship money invested in them. However, absolutely nothing like that exists, ask how I know.
- Teever 4y ago
  https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/ https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/
- lisp-pornstar 4y ago
  >To exist means to locate the resources to live I didn't understand the meaning of this sentence; does "means" here points to the expression of "requirement" or of "signification" ? (I am not a native speaker)
  - chii 4y ago
    yes, to exist requires one to locate resources to live.
- analognoise 4y ago
  "These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old" - Why not? The markets" and all that - it's artifice. Artifice to keep you busy. The scarcity is manufactured to keep you from realizing there is plenty and most people shouldn't be working.
scruple 4y ago
> if you can't find work in California For folks like myself, who migrated to California in previous decades, the truism here is so absurd that it hurts.

chii 4y ago

> especially if you are able bodied and healthy if you're abled bodied, and healthy, why should society bear a burden of giving you resources to live off long term? To exist means to locate the resources to live (such as food, shelter, etc). These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old, and thus, the allocation of these resources must come from a mechanism we call market and employment today. A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently. However, on the side of medical care, i do believe that universal medical care is more efficient, and cuts out as much middleman as possible.

7speter 4y ago
> A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently Oh you mean get a job now when employers are just collecting resumes for “talent pipelines” they can hire from at some future date, or just to improve morale of their current overworked employees? And what if you’re an able bodied caretaker for a family member who is ill, disabled, or just elderly?
- renewiltord 4y ago
  Unemployment is incredibly low - besides which you can always train to be an ironworker. Make it to journeyman and it's just a matter of not fucking it up.
s5300 4y ago
>> A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job Or the time it takes to rehabilitate somebody with a fairly severe musculoskeletal disorder, especially when they’ve otherwise had $100k of various scholarship money invested in them. However, absolutely nothing like that exists, ask how I know.
Teever 4y ago
https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/ https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/
lisp-pornstar 4y ago
>To exist means to locate the resources to live I didn't understand the meaning of this sentence; does "means" here points to the expression of "requirement" or of "signification" ? (I am not a native speaker)
- chii 4y ago
  yes, to exist requires one to locate resources to live.
analognoise 4y ago
"These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old" - Why not? The markets" and all that - it's artifice. Artifice to keep you busy. The scarcity is manufactured to keep you from realizing there is plenty and most people shouldn't be working.

scruple 4y ago

> if you can't find work in California For folks like myself, who migrated to California in previous decades, the truism here is so absurd that it hurts.