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That would be great (unweighting bluechecks) but they actually plan to go in the other direction: Starting April 15th non-bluechecks won't show up in the "For y

That would be great (unweighting bluechecks) but they actually plan to go in the other direction: Starting April 15th non-bluechecks won't show up in the "For you" section (the algorithm timeline) at all. Unpaid users are being written completely out of the algo. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972

alfor 4y ago
I don’t see a way out of this with the GPT/AI able to create fake persona in an instant.
- thefreeman 4y ago
  What does that matter? If people find the content engaging then it will be amplified. If not, it shouldn't be there in the first place. This whole "AI / Bot swarm" excuse is just smoke and mirrors for "I want more people to pay twitter".
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    If _accounts_ find the tweet engaging
  - lhnz 4y ago
    If "bots indistinguisable from humans" find your "account that posts pro-russian propaganda" engaging it will be amplified onto your For You page.
  - yreg 4y ago
    If you don't care whether the content is generated then you don't need to use a social network at all. GPT can generate you an endless interesting feed no problem.
bradly 4y ago
I believe LeBron James said recently he isn't going to waste his money on a blue checkmark, so it should be interesting to see what stays and what goes.
- zaroth 4y ago
  LeBron doesn’t get $84 of value from Twitter? Definitely not a political statement going on there.
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    Parent didn’t say it’s not “political”. It’s reasonable for a wealthy person to feel that a system that discriminates against the poor is not a system they want to participate in. (Note that I use discriminate in the literal sense, as a simple statement of fact.)
    - nonethewiser 4y ago
      But the example you give is an appeal to a universal moral good. Not partisan politics. So despite saying it’s not not political, your justification is that it’s not political. Also, how did you get a blue check before being able to buy one?
      - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
        Some people unfortunately view concern for the poor as political. However my point of mentioning politics is to say that “it’s political” is not any kind of gotcha when it was never denied as being political. Regardless of the actual justification being political or not, the “political” gotcha is nonsense.
        nonethewiser 4y ago
        That’s bullshit. Virtually everyone agrees poverty is a problem. Sure, the welfare state feeds the cycle of poverty, but it’s not like that was the goal.
anigbrowl 4y ago
Inaccurate. Musk stated that people you follow will continue to show up. I only use the 'for you' feed when I'm bored and want stupid dopamine hits, I leave it on Following almost all the time. But that's on desktop, my understanding it that it keeps resetting itself for mobile users (of whom I am not one).
- astrange 4y ago
  He only said that later; he seems to be working on a "say we'll do feature and then change it all after people yell at him for weeks" process.
  - mgiannopoulos 4y ago
    Sounds like moving fast and adjusting to user feedback, usually something commendable in tech, right?
    - KerrAvon 4y ago
      No. There's an implied willingness to listen to people in the first place when you're agile in response to feedback. You shouldn't have to bruise Elon's ego to get him to do not-stupid things.
      - AmericanChopper 4y ago
        This distinction you’re making relies entirely upon how you personally interpret the motives of the people involved. An interpretation that you’ve entirely invented for yourself.
        astrange 4y ago
        Approximately every US news organization and Lebron James announced they weren't going to pay for checkmarks yesterday, so he announced a surprise twist where the top 10,000 famous people get free checkmarks. …so he's now not charging people who can pay, while charging people less able to pay. Though, the main problem is that Twitter is about as big in Japan as it is in the US, but Elon only thinks about US culture wars because his only friends are a few VCs and a retired postal worker crank named catturd2. So none of his new ideas are going to work there.
cwkoss 4y ago
it's a shame we can no longer short twitter stock
seydor 4y ago
Followed users will still show But i agree it is a bad idea. The worst actors have money to buy the blue marks of an army of accounts. This is basically making it easier for authoritarian governments to abuse it
- dazc 4y ago
  Like that wasn't already happening?
  - seydor 4y ago
    not with blue marks
    - dazc 4y ago
      I'm not in the US
      - seydor 4y ago
        It's actually non-US autharitarian governments that the biggest abusers, using social media against their own people https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-...

alfor 4y ago

I don’t see a way out of this with the GPT/AI able to create fake persona in an instant.

thefreeman 4y ago
What does that matter? If people find the content engaging then it will be amplified. If not, it shouldn't be there in the first place. This whole "AI / Bot swarm" excuse is just smoke and mirrors for "I want more people to pay twitter".
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  If _accounts_ find the tweet engaging
- lhnz 4y ago
  If "bots indistinguisable from humans" find your "account that posts pro-russian propaganda" engaging it will be amplified onto your For You page.
- yreg 4y ago
  If you don't care whether the content is generated then you don't need to use a social network at all. GPT can generate you an endless interesting feed no problem.

bradly 4y ago

I believe LeBron James said recently he isn't going to waste his money on a blue checkmark, so it should be interesting to see what stays and what goes.

zaroth 4y ago
LeBron doesn’t get $84 of value from Twitter? Definitely not a political statement going on there.
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  Parent didn’t say it’s not “political”. It’s reasonable for a wealthy person to feel that a system that discriminates against the poor is not a system they want to participate in. (Note that I use discriminate in the literal sense, as a simple statement of fact.)
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    But the example you give is an appeal to a universal moral good. Not partisan politics. So despite saying it’s not not political, your justification is that it’s not political. Also, how did you get a blue check before being able to buy one?
    - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
      Some people unfortunately view concern for the poor as political. However my point of mentioning politics is to say that “it’s political” is not any kind of gotcha when it was never denied as being political. Regardless of the actual justification being political or not, the “political” gotcha is nonsense.
      - nonethewiser 4y ago
        That’s bullshit. Virtually everyone agrees poverty is a problem. Sure, the welfare state feeds the cycle of poverty, but it’s not like that was the goal.

anigbrowl 4y ago

Inaccurate. Musk stated that people you follow will continue to show up. I only use the 'for you' feed when I'm bored and want stupid dopamine hits, I leave it on Following almost all the time. But that's on desktop, my understanding it that it keeps resetting itself for mobile users (of whom I am not one).

astrange 4y ago
He only said that later; he seems to be working on a "say we'll do feature and then change it all after people yell at him for weeks" process.
- mgiannopoulos 4y ago
  Sounds like moving fast and adjusting to user feedback, usually something commendable in tech, right?
  - KerrAvon 4y ago
    No. There's an implied willingness to listen to people in the first place when you're agile in response to feedback. You shouldn't have to bruise Elon's ego to get him to do not-stupid things.
    - AmericanChopper 4y ago
      This distinction you’re making relies entirely upon how you personally interpret the motives of the people involved. An interpretation that you’ve entirely invented for yourself.
      - astrange 4y ago
        Approximately every US news organization and Lebron James announced they weren't going to pay for checkmarks yesterday, so he announced a surprise twist where the top 10,000 famous people get free checkmarks. …so he's now not charging people who can pay, while charging people less able to pay. Though, the main problem is that Twitter is about as big in Japan as it is in the US, but Elon only thinks about US culture wars because his only friends are a few VCs and a retired postal worker crank named catturd2. So none of his new ideas are going to work there.

cwkoss 4y ago

it's a shame we can no longer short twitter stock

seydor 4y ago

Followed users will still show But i agree it is a bad idea. The worst actors have money to buy the blue marks of an army of accounts. This is basically making it easier for authoritarian governments to abuse it

dazc 4y ago
Like that wasn't already happening?
- seydor 4y ago
  not with blue marks
  - dazc 4y ago
    I'm not in the US
    - seydor 4y ago
      It's actually non-US autharitarian governments that the biggest abusers, using social media against their own people https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-...