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Well CarPlay (and Android Auto) do cut off revenue. I’ll never buy the satellite radio plan for my car to stream music. Why would I? My phone already provides

by MBCook 4y ago

Well CarPlay (and Android Auto) do cut off revenue. I’ll never buy the satellite radio plan for my car to stream music. Why would I? My phone already provides a cell connection. I’ll never buy the car cell plan to stream Spotify. Why would I? My phone does that already. I never bought the $200+ per year map updates for my last car. Why would I? I had Apple Maps on CarPlay and it updates for free. In many ways this seems like trying to go back to 2006 when cars had some subscription stuff (maps, satellite radio) but consumers had no other choice besides going without. Today we have another choice. Use our cell phones. And they’re often superior experiences. This will be reversed after much shareholder pain.

alistairSH 4y ago
Well CarPlay (and Android Auto) do cut off revenue. Sure, but that revenue stream only exists in a situation where the auto manufacturer has monopoly power (over that particular service). Prior to cell phones, they had that power over navigation and could charge a fee for updated maps (annually via DVD initially). Attempting to subvert the market and create a monopoly here is anti-consumer, anti-competitive, and very likely a short-sighted decision that GM will regret in 5 years.
- MBCook 4y ago
  I agree completely. They’re obviously desperate if they’re trying to turn the clock back 15 years.
  - fma 4y ago
    The other future path is that all the other OEMs follow suit because they don't want to just make money once in selling hardware - but have a recurring revenue stream. At the moment GM (and Tesla...) is capacity constrained so no reason to appease customers any more than they need to. Not till you have excess supply. I think GM can take the hit for a year or two and see if other OEMs follow. If not they can always say "whoops, here's an OTA upgrade". If other OEMs follow what will consumers do - besides mounting their cellphone on their dash.

by MBCook 4y ago

alistairSH 4y ago

Well CarPlay (and Android Auto) do cut off revenue. Sure, but that revenue stream only exists in a situation where the auto manufacturer has monopoly power (over that particular service). Prior to cell phones, they had that power over navigation and could charge a fee for updated maps (annually via DVD initially). Attempting to subvert the market and create a monopoly here is anti-consumer, anti-competitive, and very likely a short-sighted decision that GM will regret in 5 years.

MBCook 4y ago
I agree completely. They’re obviously desperate if they’re trying to turn the clock back 15 years.
- fma 4y ago
  The other future path is that all the other OEMs follow suit because they don't want to just make money once in selling hardware - but have a recurring revenue stream. At the moment GM (and Tesla...) is capacity constrained so no reason to appease customers any more than they need to. Not till you have excess supply. I think GM can take the hit for a year or two and see if other OEMs follow. If not they can always say "whoops, here's an OTA upgrade". If other OEMs follow what will consumers do - besides mounting their cellphone on their dash.