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The industry and drivers love ELDs because most cops can't be bothered. Before they could just say "show me your log" and they read down the page; now they have

The industry and drivers love ELDs because most cops can't be bothered. Before they could just say "show me your log" and they read down the page; now they have to fuss with memory cards or figuring out the UI of the control unit and they cannot be bothered. The laziness of the American policeman knows no bounds except when they think someone has drugs or cash on them.

sumtechguy 4y ago
When I was making these things in the late 90s that is exactly why the drivers loved them. And my software had an audit trail anyway (as required by the big green book). A fun game I used to play was 'how many log books do you have'. Lowest was 1, the guy was following the rules as best he could. Highest was 6, 1 for himself, 1 for his boss, and 1 for the cops. Not sure what the other 3 were for (he could not explain them).
- bombcar 4y ago
  The other 3 were for wife and two mistresses; or if he was real spicy for three wives.
  - sumtechguy 4y ago
    considering I was at his wedding reception when I asked I sure hope not!
    - bombcar 4y ago
      I could also see one being for customers
crote 4y ago
European ELDs have an integrated printer. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure they have a supply of printer paper, and are able to create a printout on demand. Can't supply a freshly-made printout? Guess you're getting a fine!
- KennyBlanken 4y ago
  In case it isn't obvious, most US regulations are purposefully designed with loopholes big enough to (ahem) drive a truck through because someone was paid off by a lobbyist to weaken the legislation. Republicans then get to bray about how "useless" laws/regulations are. See: gun legislation. The average gun-tard loves to shriek about assault rifle regulations being about "cosmetics" and so on and how useless/stupid they are. That's because republicans pushed to make the bans about specific items/appearance/lengths so that the gun industry could make a rifle that was a tenth of an inch shorter and not sell it with a particular grip from the factory and skate right on by the regulation.
  - pc86 4y ago
    I'm not aware of any banned firearm that suddenly becomes legal when you change the cosmetic aspects of the grip and shorten the barrel. Usually barrels are already about as short as they can be without reaching NFA territory where things become logistically, if not always financially, expensive to get your hands on. I think the problem most pro-2A people have with proposed gun regulations after a shooting is that none or very few of the proposed regulations would have done anything to prevent it. I'm happy to debate a 10-round magazine limit or something like that on its merits, but when there's a gang shooting with an illegally-modified AR-15 and you start talking about 8-round limits instead of 10, or when there's a school shooting with a legally purchased AR-15 but you start talking about banning unrelated ammunition you lose a lot of credibility in my opinion. If you want to ban something just to ban it let's talk about the merits of that proposal, but let's not pretend that changing the NFA barrel length from 18" to 16" is going to do anything.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Yeah that sort of presumption of guilt doesn't fly in the US unless there's a huge moral panic. You might be able to screw a small industry into having laws like that with just a small moral panic. But trucking is to big, you'd need a big one.

sumtechguy 4y ago

When I was making these things in the late 90s that is exactly why the drivers loved them. And my software had an audit trail anyway (as required by the big green book). A fun game I used to play was 'how many log books do you have'. Lowest was 1, the guy was following the rules as best he could. Highest was 6, 1 for himself, 1 for his boss, and 1 for the cops. Not sure what the other 3 were for (he could not explain them).

bombcar 4y ago
The other 3 were for wife and two mistresses; or if he was real spicy for three wives.
- sumtechguy 4y ago
  considering I was at his wedding reception when I asked I sure hope not!
  - bombcar 4y ago
    I could also see one being for customers

crote 4y ago

European ELDs have an integrated printer. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure they have a supply of printer paper, and are able to create a printout on demand. Can't supply a freshly-made printout? Guess you're getting a fine!

KennyBlanken 4y ago
In case it isn't obvious, most US regulations are purposefully designed with loopholes big enough to (ahem) drive a truck through because someone was paid off by a lobbyist to weaken the legislation. Republicans then get to bray about how "useless" laws/regulations are. See: gun legislation. The average gun-tard loves to shriek about assault rifle regulations being about "cosmetics" and so on and how useless/stupid they are. That's because republicans pushed to make the bans about specific items/appearance/lengths so that the gun industry could make a rifle that was a tenth of an inch shorter and not sell it with a particular grip from the factory and skate right on by the regulation.
- pc86 4y ago
  I'm not aware of any banned firearm that suddenly becomes legal when you change the cosmetic aspects of the grip and shorten the barrel. Usually barrels are already about as short as they can be without reaching NFA territory where things become logistically, if not always financially, expensive to get your hands on. I think the problem most pro-2A people have with proposed gun regulations after a shooting is that none or very few of the proposed regulations would have done anything to prevent it. I'm happy to debate a 10-round magazine limit or something like that on its merits, but when there's a gang shooting with an illegally-modified AR-15 and you start talking about 8-round limits instead of 10, or when there's a school shooting with a legally purchased AR-15 but you start talking about banning unrelated ammunition you lose a lot of credibility in my opinion. If you want to ban something just to ban it let's talk about the merits of that proposal, but let's not pretend that changing the NFA barrel length from 18" to 16" is going to do anything.
dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Yeah that sort of presumption of guilt doesn't fly in the US unless there's a huge moral panic. You might be able to screw a small industry into having laws like that with just a small moral panic. But trucking is to big, you'd need a big one.