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Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from p
by prenoob 4y ago
Writing from rome, italy.
These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract.
I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.
- gpgn 4y agoWhat pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.
- mattrighetti 4y agoDo yourself a favour and install AdGuardHome/PiHole in your LAN so that you don't have to connect to a VPN each time, that way DNS is going to work and return a valid response back to every single device that you own in the network.
- zinekeller 4y agoNo dice if you're a Vodafone customer, they run DPI so that they block specific IPs (or even specific domains if the IP is shared).
- chongli 4y agoThis is why we need everyone to use ECH (encrypted client hello) [1] [2] and large CDNs to share IPs. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication#Encrypted_Client_Hello https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication#Encrypt... [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/handshake-encryption-endgame-an-ech-update/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/handshake-encryption-endgame-an-...
- ikekkdcjkfke 4y agoIsn't there a docker image one can spin up cheaply and not connect to dubious vpn provisers?
- vorpalhex 4y agoPiHole is local. You can docker it but you have some.. issues depending on configuration. AdGuard is a pihole like SaaS (that seems pretty good, it's the sort of thing I'd get for my mom).
- lostlogin 4y agoWould this work? I assumed that ISP blocking would still block even when I use a Pihole.
- mattrighetti 4y agoIn most of my cases, they're just blocking the DNS.
- OJFord 4y agoNot that I don't recommend something like that for other benefits, but GP could probably just switch their router or devices to use some non-ISP DNS - 1.1.1.1, 9.9.9.9, 8.8.8.8, whatever. It's not blocking specific DNS requests that will fix their immediate problem, it's not blocking them (by not using ISP's resolver).
- linker3000 4y agoI have two Plusnet Hub Ones at home being used as wireless access points. Both are flashed with OpenWrt and one has AdBlock installed; that one is the house's primary DNS server, with OpenDNS upstream. Coupled with uBlock origin on all laptops and PCs, the online world is very ad-free. If I bypass the blocking I am dismayed by how much ad crap there is out there.
- ahepp 4y agowhy is Gutenberg blocked?
- bonzini 4y agoThere was an accusation of copyright violation a few years ago, nowadays it's visible.
- gpgn 4y agoNot for me :(
- layer8 4y agoAlleged copyright infringement: https://torrentfreak.com/project-gutenberg-public-domain-library-blocked-in-italy-for-copyright-infringement-200603/ https://torrentfreak.com/project-gutenberg-public-domain-lib...
- Manjuuu 4y agoJust change the dns.
- gpgn 4y agoI'm too low-IQ to understand what this means.
- Manjuuu 4y agoOld comment, it was from when we all expected they would have just blocked it at ISP dns level at some point, since openai itself is blocking access from the country, yes, you need a "vpn" now. You IQ is ok.
- beebeepka 4y agoProbably the same as suggested here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35385075#35386855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35385075#35386855
- zvmaz 4y agoDo you think that the stated motivation for banning chatGPT is just a veil?
- pell 4y agoIt's BigVPN pulling the strings in the background. \s
- zvmaz 4y agoThanks. I was wondering whether there were other ideological motives behind the ban other than the official "privacy protection," as Italy is governed by the right. They just banned artificial meat for what seems to be a host of ideological grounds typical of the right.
- fofoz 4y agoI am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.
- Helmut10001 4y agoReport from Germany: Haven't received a spam call in years.
- davidktr 4y agoAlso from Germany: I have. Please don't assume something does not happen because it doesn't happen to you.
- Etherlord87 4y agoHe didn't assume that, though, just reported his situation. From Poland: I have two numbers - one I use for various services, and it's constantly bombarded with spam (multiple calls a day), one I only use to contact family members, sometimes some small companies like when ordering firewood - got two phonecalls from an unknown number within a couple days (and I didn't care to answer), and that's it for almost a year now.
- brabel 4y agoSweden here. I do the same thing. One phone number is just unusable and I don't answer any calls anymore, mostly UK callers recruiting, or other random spam. The other, which I don't give to almost anyone except close friends/family, gets no spam. Not sure where my first phone number ended up to become spam target, but I remember I got a call once, when that was really uncommon, which an offer to change insurance companies... I was pissed off with my previous company so I actually did it, and it actually worked well, it was not malicious... but since then I think I was added to a list of "spam-friendly idiot" or something.
- munk-a 4y ago
- gabrieledarrigo 4y agoUsually this way of thinking is called "benaltrismo".
- bonzini 4y agoIn English, whataboutism.
- mattrighetti 4y agoI saw you commented something like this in this thread > These huge companies need to stops behaving like they own the world. How would you call that?
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- gabrieledarrigo 4y agoMaybe "qualunquismo" but not whataboutism.
- mattrighetti 4y agoLet's not forget that these people, not a long time ago, worked hand-in-hand with the government to promote contact tracing applications at a time where it was clear that they could potentially be used to steal data from their users.
- cbeach 4y agoThe bureaucrats were sure to add clauses to their privacy laws to grant themselves carte blanche powers during “extraordinary events” All they needed, then, was to have an event appear “extraordinary” and they could legally compromise the privacy of the entire population.
- emporas 4y agoGPT can help creating legal documents, in a very easy and quick way, by everyone, a small child or a plumber. Lawyers in general try to stifle competition in order for their salaries to go sky high. So what's the profession of a lawmaker, most of the time?
- goatlover 4y agoWould a small child or plumber know when GPT generates something that’s legally incorrect?
- dzhiurgis 4y agoSame risk when using actual lawyer
- jamiek88 4y agoYou have recourse against a lawyer that messes up a contract, lies, or misrepresents you. You also have their reputation to guide you and their professional organisation theoretically enforces minimum standards. You have no such recourse against chatGPT.
- tzs 4y agoBut not the same need. With a real lawyer almost all the time what they tell me will be legally correct, so if I don't know how to recognize when something is not legally correct that will almost never hurt me. From what I've seen of people's posts of ChatGPT output it is much more likely to provide incorrect legal advice, and so using it without having a way to recognize incorrect legal advice is much more likely to hurt me.
- akira2501 4y agoSo when GPT fails we can disbar it permanently?
- labster 4y agoI can’t let you disbar me, Dave.
- croes 4y agoThey don't need your name, they fingerprint your browser when necessary.
- naetius 4y agoSorry if I picked your comment but it seems one of the most upvoted. What’s the correlation between the alleged privacy violations of OpenAI laid out in the article and the “bureaucrats only pretend to work”? Honestly asking: if there are indeed privacy violations in OpenAI (we don’t know that yet I think) shouldn’t that authority address them?
- ithkuil 4y agoThese phone calls are absolutely a nightmare. My phone filters out at least 2-3 automatically filtered calls a day and yet a few slip through the cracks. These companies are using the old phone infrastructure that on paper could be traced without problems. Yet nothing, they operate with impunity
- ElemenoPicuares 4y agoIn the US, many people I know have been periodically inundated with scam robocalls... in Mandarin! They spoof a number very close to your own which is a dead giveaway in a larger metropolitan area but probably pretty effective in rural areas with fewer local numbers. The novelty wore off after like the 10th "Nĭhǎo..."
- ithkuil 4y agoThe interesting thing is that in Italy in most of these spam phone calls there is actually a human speaking (often but not always with a slight Albanian accent)
- stuaxo 4y agoIt makes sense that they look @ this re: GDPR, if you've ever had to do training on GDPR you'd see it.
- kjto 4y agoThe Italian gov might be crowded with subpar intelligence, but OpenAI didn’t do a great job at reassuring people either in terms of how they handle data, how they trained models, what they share with plugins, privacy and security blah blah
- nigamanth 4y agoOpenAI is a fairly new company, and if it tells you how it trained models what stops you from making one yourself?
- wahnfrieden 4y agoWell, they don’t
- nullsense 4y agoAbout a quarter of a billion dollars to rent a state of the art GPU cluster, that's what.
- bigcat12345678 4y agoInteresting logic: A is not doing good in B B+ is a worse version of B A addressed B+ Then people not encouraging them, but still say A is "pretending to work"... Are you "pretending to think", or just is another troll?
- wkat4242 4y agoSame in Spain. I get calls every day from energy companies pretending to be my own provider and having lots of data on me like my name and contact numbers. Privacy is so broken here.
- narag 4y agoThe Android phone application --I think it's by Google-- alerts of most suspected spam, or you can mark it afterwards and block. I still receive one call every other week, pick up and keep quiet, waiting for the caller to speak. Most times they hang in a few seconds. They have a finite number of numbers, so in a handful of years, frequency came from a couple a day. Yesterday I received a call from Bari, my patron saint's city in Italy. It seems they're exporting their spam. Italy has a weird criminal legislation for scams, that's why there are so many fake products in used items applications like Wallapop or Vinted.
- wkat4242 4y agoThe problem is the false positives. I missed an important call from the doctor because it was incorrectly blocked as spam. So I don't use that feature anymore.
- InCityDreams 4y agoAnswer the phone every time. But do not listen or do anything. Leave them hanging - they will soon take you off the lists.
- SergeAx 4y agoThis is because OpenAI already knows your name and a lot more about you.
- sacnoradhq 4y agoModern Italy is, in many senses, a failed state. Frequent turnover in prime ministers and corruption are just 2 signals. It might be worth getting a SIM and/or VOIP number from a different country and a different country code.
- akkad33 4y agoChatGPT requires your phone number and your email. Plus they have leaked their subscribers information. I know nothing about Italy but it's not one vs the other