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I see this alot. Donald Trump isn't Al Capone,and the analogy fails enormously. Donald Trump is a former president of the United States. He's beloved by his bas

I see this alot. Donald Trump isn't Al Capone,and the analogy fails enormously. Donald Trump is a former president of the United States. He's beloved by his base in quasi-religious way, even across the globe. Italy had parade with a "God-emperor Trump". Trump cannot be treated with like Al Capone. He has run as the anti-establishment candidate, and by god you better have a bulletproof case on him or you have just angered millions of people. He literally won half the country, his rallies ALWAYS have huge turnsouts. This guy is a Napoleon or Caesar in the making, and New York has just given him something to boost his profile when it was failing against Desantis. Donald Trump isn't Al Capone, that analogy does them both a disservice and distorts reality. Donald Trump was literally president of the united states for 4 years, any prosecution has to be air fucking tight or the whole system collapses.

laidoffamazon 4y ago
Trump and Capone were both indicted. Though to be fair Capone never lost an election and then claimed he didn’t.
Jedd 4y ago
Potentially angering millions of people is not a compelling reason to not pursue criminals through your legal system, of course. > He literally won half the country ... Well that's not true, no matter how you slice it, or which election you look at. In neither did he win more than 50% of the vote (2016 it was 46.1% of voters, compared to 48.2% who voted for Hillary - and in 2020 it was 46.8%, compared to the 51.3% for Joe). And while that sounds tantalisingly close enough to half, it overlooks the fact that in those two elections, respectively, only 59% and then 70% of eligible voters (or 54% and 55% of age-and-citizenship-eligible-but-not-registered) actually voted. So that means that you're looking at less than half of roughly 2/3's of the voting population -- a demographic that in turn is only around 3/4 of 'the country'. He literally, therefore, won about 20% of US citizens, or 25% of eligible voters. > ... his rallies ALWAYS have huge turnsouts. That's neither true or compelling. Garry Glitter and Elvis used to have huge crowds.
ahiknsr 4y ago
> This guy is a Napoleon or Caesar in the making, Did Napoleon or Caesar also try to overthrow the democratically elected government when they lost the election?
- armada651 4y ago
  Napoleon was never up for election, but as for violently overthrowing an elected government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_of_18_Brumaire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_of_18_Brumaire
the_gipsy 4y ago
The Mafia is also beloved by many and anti-establishment. Al Capone is a good comparison if only for the end up getting caught on something ridiculous part. Of course Trump isn't a gangster, only a grifter, but do you really think someone is confused by this analogy?
armada651 4y ago
> He's beloved by his base in quasi-religious way, even across the globe. Italy had parade with a "God-emperor Trump". This wasn't the loving display of affection that you make it out to be: > The official description of the statue says that the float was created by artist Fabrizio Galli, whose past sculptures included satirical depictions of Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin. Source: https://time.com/5526224/trump-float-italy/ https://time.com/5526224/trump-float-italy/
scoutt 4y ago
> "God-emperor Trump" “It’s a joke, but in fact he’s trying to destroy nations with the economy instead of nuclear missiles,” Mr Galli told the Italian media. “This is one of the strongest actions, let’s say, that powerful people like Trump can use.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-warhammer-statue-italy-god-emperor-warrior-twitter-parade-a8787116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
cma 4y ago
> Donald Trump isn't Al Capone https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-twitter-comparing-himself-to-al-capone/ https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-twitter-comparing-himse...

laidoffamazon 4y ago

Trump and Capone were both indicted. Though to be fair Capone never lost an election and then claimed he didn’t.

Jedd 4y ago

Potentially angering millions of people is not a compelling reason to not pursue criminals through your legal system, of course. > He literally won half the country ... Well that's not true, no matter how you slice it, or which election you look at. In neither did he win more than 50% of the vote (2016 it was 46.1% of voters, compared to 48.2% who voted for Hillary - and in 2020 it was 46.8%, compared to the 51.3% for Joe). And while that sounds tantalisingly close enough to half, it overlooks the fact that in those two elections, respectively, only 59% and then 70% of eligible voters (or 54% and 55% of age-and-citizenship-eligible-but-not-registered) actually voted. So that means that you're looking at less than half of roughly 2/3's of the voting population -- a demographic that in turn is only around 3/4 of 'the country'. He literally, therefore, won about 20% of US citizens, or 25% of eligible voters. > ... his rallies ALWAYS have huge turnsouts. That's neither true or compelling. Garry Glitter and Elvis used to have huge crowds.

ahiknsr 4y ago

> This guy is a Napoleon or Caesar in the making, Did Napoleon or Caesar also try to overthrow the democratically elected government when they lost the election?

armada651 4y ago
Napoleon was never up for election, but as for violently overthrowing an elected government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_of_18_Brumaire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_of_18_Brumaire

the_gipsy 4y ago

The Mafia is also beloved by many and anti-establishment. Al Capone is a good comparison if only for the end up getting caught on something ridiculous part. Of course Trump isn't a gangster, only a grifter, but do you really think someone is confused by this analogy?

armada651 4y ago

> He's beloved by his base in quasi-religious way, even across the globe. Italy had parade with a "God-emperor Trump". This wasn't the loving display of affection that you make it out to be: > The official description of the statue says that the float was created by artist Fabrizio Galli, whose past sculptures included satirical depictions of Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin. Source: https://time.com/5526224/trump-float-italy/ https://time.com/5526224/trump-float-italy/

scoutt 4y ago

> "God-emperor Trump" “It’s a joke, but in fact he’s trying to destroy nations with the economy instead of nuclear missiles,” Mr Galli told the Italian media. “This is one of the strongest actions, let’s say, that powerful people like Trump can use.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-warhammer-statue-italy-god-emperor-warrior-twitter-parade-a8787116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

cma 4y ago

> Donald Trump isn't Al Capone https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-twitter-comparing-himself-to-al-capone/ https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-twitter-comparing-himse...