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> For a blue state that's pretty fucked up, but then it's only about 55% blue fun fact, that's pretty normal. That's why all this talk about a national divorc

> For a blue state that's pretty fucked up, but then it's only about 55% blue fun fact, that's pretty normal. That's why all this talk about a national divorce is boneheaded-stupid. The only reason we have red states and blue states is because of FPTP and winner-take-all voting. But even in a place like california, democrats only outnumber republicans by about 2-1.

flangola7 4y ago
Divisions are also fractal. The outskirts of large cities are more conservative than the dense downtown. The center of a small town is more progressive than its outer streets, even in towns as small as a couple thousand people. This isn't the American Civil War of state vs state, it's (relatively) high density vs (relatively) low density. If we have a wide outbreak of violence it will probably look closer to Rwanda than the organized Union vs Confederacy fighting.
- lazide 4y ago
  It couldn’t be Rwanda anyway - no group has enough of a majority. Rwanda had 84%/15%
pyuser583 4y ago
Last I checked New York had fusion voting. Chicago had fusion voting until the 1990s. California had fusion voting as late as the 1940s - not sure when it ended. So it’s not as simple as “winner takes all.” NB: fusion voting is where candidates are endorsed by multiple parties. So you can be a Democrat and a Libertarian.
- knodi123 4y ago
  > So it’s not as simple as “winner takes all.” Yes it is. You just misunderstood what I meant. from https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/allocation https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/allocation > All States, except for Maine and Nebraska have a winner-take-all policy where the State looks only at the overall winner of the state-wide popular vote. Maine and Nebraska, however, appoint individual electors based on the winner of the popular vote for each Congressional district and then 2 electors based on the winner of the overall state-wide popular vote.
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    That is only for presidential elections. I assume the original comment covered elections in general. Washington state, for example, has single primaries (top two advance to general election regardless of party) rather than a partisan primary for every election except presidential.
friend_and_foe 4y ago
> for a blue state Would you just drop the stereotype that Democrats care about black people any more than Republicans do? It's staring you in the face, you admit it and somehow cling to this lie.
- knodi123 4y ago
  what the hell? did you reply to the wrong person?
  - eurasiantiger 4y ago
    Psyops
  - friend_and_foe 4y ago
    I must've. Ran into some "we are unable to process your request" while trying to reply earlier.

flangola7 4y ago

Divisions are also fractal. The outskirts of large cities are more conservative than the dense downtown. The center of a small town is more progressive than its outer streets, even in towns as small as a couple thousand people. This isn't the American Civil War of state vs state, it's (relatively) high density vs (relatively) low density. If we have a wide outbreak of violence it will probably look closer to Rwanda than the organized Union vs Confederacy fighting.

lazide 4y ago
It couldn’t be Rwanda anyway - no group has enough of a majority. Rwanda had 84%/15%

pyuser583 4y ago

Last I checked New York had fusion voting. Chicago had fusion voting until the 1990s. California had fusion voting as late as the 1940s - not sure when it ended. So it’s not as simple as “winner takes all.” NB: fusion voting is where candidates are endorsed by multiple parties. So you can be a Democrat and a Libertarian.

knodi123 4y ago
> So it’s not as simple as “winner takes all.” Yes it is. You just misunderstood what I meant. from https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/allocation https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/allocation > All States, except for Maine and Nebraska have a winner-take-all policy where the State looks only at the overall winner of the state-wide popular vote. Maine and Nebraska, however, appoint individual electors based on the winner of the popular vote for each Congressional district and then 2 electors based on the winner of the overall state-wide popular vote.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  That is only for presidential elections. I assume the original comment covered elections in general. Washington state, for example, has single primaries (top two advance to general election regardless of party) rather than a partisan primary for every election except presidential.

friend_and_foe 4y ago

> for a blue state Would you just drop the stereotype that Democrats care about black people any more than Republicans do? It's staring you in the face, you admit it and somehow cling to this lie.

knodi123 4y ago
what the hell? did you reply to the wrong person?
- eurasiantiger 4y ago
  Psyops
- friend_and_foe 4y ago
  I must've. Ran into some "we are unable to process your request" while trying to reply earlier.