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What percent blue is Chicago? Bet it's not 55%.

by Mountain_Skies 4y ago

tedivm 4y ago
In 2020 Biden got 74% of the vote in Chicago.
- amanaplanacanal 4y ago
  I would guess that Biden got a lot of votes from independents and even republicans who were tired of the previous president's shenanigans.
  - hgsgm 4y ago
    The overall vote was very close in both 2016 and 2020
  - acmdas 4y ago
    Chicago (Cook County) went 83% for Clinton in 2016, 74% for Obama in 2012, 76% for Obama in 2008, 79% for Kerry in 2004 and 68% for Gore in 2000. Biden's 2020 numbers were on the low side of average for a Democrat candidate there, probably didn't involve an unusual number of independents or disaffected Republicans...
    - grogenaut 4y ago
      St. Louis City went 82.71% for Obama for context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election_in_Missouri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidentia... so higher than cook... but the city of stl is generally even more blue and was one of the highest rates for obama nation wide. STL took it as a point of pride to vote more for obama than chicago where obmama is from.
thephyber 4y ago
It’s important to parse the language and understand the domain. Major party affiliation of red + blue usually only adds up to about 60-80% in most regions. Not everyone is eligible to vote, registered to vote, or votes regularly. If people look at the percentage of the vote that Biden/Trump got in the most recent election, they are looking at the narrow end of the funnel. The “55% blue” is likely a cross-section closer to the beginning of the funnel. Also worth pointing out that Chicago has a 100+ year old “political machine”. I don’t remember the specifics, but each neighborhood has extremely powerful local politicians that hold a party office, but not a government office. It is not typical for American cities.
hinkley 4y ago
As it was explained to me, most of the justice problems are in the Greater Chicago Area, so if anything that sidebar by me is being charitable about how fucked up it is.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  Aren’t most of the people in Illinois in the GCA?

What percent blue is Chicago? Bet it's not 55%.

tedivm 4y ago

In 2020 Biden got 74% of the vote in Chicago.

amanaplanacanal 4y ago
I would guess that Biden got a lot of votes from independents and even republicans who were tired of the previous president's shenanigans.
- hgsgm 4y ago
  The overall vote was very close in both 2016 and 2020
- acmdas 4y ago
  Chicago (Cook County) went 83% for Clinton in 2016, 74% for Obama in 2012, 76% for Obama in 2008, 79% for Kerry in 2004 and 68% for Gore in 2000. Biden's 2020 numbers were on the low side of average for a Democrat candidate there, probably didn't involve an unusual number of independents or disaffected Republicans...
  - grogenaut 4y ago
    St. Louis City went 82.71% for Obama for context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election_in_Missouri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidentia... so higher than cook... but the city of stl is generally even more blue and was one of the highest rates for obama nation wide. STL took it as a point of pride to vote more for obama than chicago where obmama is from.

thephyber 4y ago

It’s important to parse the language and understand the domain. Major party affiliation of red + blue usually only adds up to about 60-80% in most regions. Not everyone is eligible to vote, registered to vote, or votes regularly. If people look at the percentage of the vote that Biden/Trump got in the most recent election, they are looking at the narrow end of the funnel. The “55% blue” is likely a cross-section closer to the beginning of the funnel. Also worth pointing out that Chicago has a 100+ year old “political machine”. I don’t remember the specifics, but each neighborhood has extremely powerful local politicians that hold a party office, but not a government office. It is not typical for American cities.

hinkley 4y ago

As it was explained to me, most of the justice problems are in the Greater Chicago Area, so if anything that sidebar by me is being charitable about how fucked up it is.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago
Aren’t most of the people in Illinois in the GCA?