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Does modding need to mean actually modifying game files? When we say modding, we generally mean adding new blocks, items, and behaviours no? Surely this could b

Does modding need to mean actually modifying game files? When we say modding, we generally mean adding new blocks, items, and behaviours no? Surely this could be done with a public API? It might not give you quite as much freedom as existing mods but you could get most of the way there.

brucethemoose2 4y ago
I'm not sure you understand how mechanically complex MC modding gets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8W-f9YhYA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8W-f9YhYA ... and that is just one mod. There are mods for interplanetary space travel, mods for modular portals and matter-energy conversion, mods for full z height terrain gen and massive premade structures, mods for virtual NPCs and towns, "backend" mods that overhaul the render, light engine, chunk loading and such. You cant get that with simple block APIs (which Java and Bedrock have to a limited extent). And we do have modding APIs, like Fabric and Forge. They are just unofficial. That being said, there is a better middle ground between the current extremely limited official APIs and the very permissive unofficial modding APIs, but it will never happen because it would interfere with Bedrock's MTX, and Java's development is too conservative.
- imtringued 4y ago
  You seem to underestimate the amount of modding that vanilla Minecraft servers have, such as Wynncraft or Hypixel Skyblock. They turn Minecraft into a completely different game and most of the changes are server side. Also, Fabric and Forge are not modding APIs. They sometimes provide extra APIs on top of the base game to make mod compatibility easier, but you are very much supposed to just mess around with the Minecraft codebase directly and directly reference Mojang classes in your code. If all you want to do is add a new block in Fabric you don't touch any Fabric API.
  - brucethemoose2 4y ago
    Yeah no question that server only modding is huge too. Its like 2 completely different ecosystems.

brucethemoose2 4y ago

I'm not sure you understand how mechanically complex MC modding gets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8W-f9YhYA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8W-f9YhYA ... and that is just one mod. There are mods for interplanetary space travel, mods for modular portals and matter-energy conversion, mods for full z height terrain gen and massive premade structures, mods for virtual NPCs and towns, "backend" mods that overhaul the render, light engine, chunk loading and such. You cant get that with simple block APIs (which Java and Bedrock have to a limited extent). And we do have modding APIs, like Fabric and Forge. They are just unofficial. That being said, there is a better middle ground between the current extremely limited official APIs and the very permissive unofficial modding APIs, but it will never happen because it would interfere with Bedrock's MTX, and Java's development is too conservative.

imtringued 4y ago
You seem to underestimate the amount of modding that vanilla Minecraft servers have, such as Wynncraft or Hypixel Skyblock. They turn Minecraft into a completely different game and most of the changes are server side. Also, Fabric and Forge are not modding APIs. They sometimes provide extra APIs on top of the base game to make mod compatibility easier, but you are very much supposed to just mess around with the Minecraft codebase directly and directly reference Mojang classes in your code. If all you want to do is add a new block in Fabric you don't touch any Fabric API.
- brucethemoose2 4y ago
  Yeah no question that server only modding is huge too. Its like 2 completely different ecosystems.