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Life makes much sense when you consider it to have the ethics of professional motorsports racing. There, there is no sense of ethical behaviour, as long as you

Life makes much sense when you consider it to have the ethics of professional motorsports racing. There, there is no sense of ethical behaviour, as long as you act within the rules you can do anything. That is how modern F1 driving came to be. The F1 team engineers say that designing the cars consists of looking at the new rules and working out how to bend and subvert them. All of life is like this. People exploit anything in order to make a living, and that is fine. The solution for this is to make it so that people do not need to do such things just to make a living. EDIT: More succinctly, if you want the world to make sense to you, you should not expect people to put your personal ethical viewpoints above their improvement of their material conditions.

nonethewiser 4y ago
People can, should, and often do have a sense of morality that is different than “whatever is technically legal.”
- Joker_vD 4y ago
  Yes, people often have a sense of morality that readily accepts doing illegal things, everybody knows that. Whether they should have such sense is debatable because in the end it's a question of opinion: you may be alright with that, I may be not and the others may not even care about what we think about it.
11235813213455 4y ago
human life maybe, because more natural life is about survival (without established rules or specs), sometimes at the expense of another, but not for fun, entertainment, nor with a huge pollution footprint as well
wruza 4y ago
I think you ignore(?) an important detail that the world is as good as it is due to most people not subverting the rules. While I understand the philosophy and a sort of realism you’re suggesting, I prefer to separate morals from holes in rules internally. They may or may not feel guilt for this. We may also remove this feeling from our reasoning completely. But that wouldn’t prevent it from glueing things together well enough for them to function. Living in a welcoming environment, with all ethics attached to that, is a fundamental human desire, apart from psychopathological cases. F1 teams managed to negotiate that between themselves and now they’re okay with it - it’s a hard competition all in all. But you’ll have a hard time negotiating $subj’s morality with an open source community of developers and users. The one who spits into a pot of a free meal - is a rat in all countries and cultures. I doubt that F1-ers refrain from spitting on a road just before another box because there’s a rule about it.

nonethewiser 4y ago

People can, should, and often do have a sense of morality that is different than “whatever is technically legal.”

Joker_vD 4y ago
Yes, people often have a sense of morality that readily accepts doing illegal things, everybody knows that. Whether they should have such sense is debatable because in the end it's a question of opinion: you may be alright with that, I may be not and the others may not even care about what we think about it.

11235813213455 4y ago

human life maybe, because more natural life is about survival (without established rules or specs), sometimes at the expense of another, but not for fun, entertainment, nor with a huge pollution footprint as well

wruza 4y ago

I think you ignore(?) an important detail that the world is as good as it is due to most people not subverting the rules. While I understand the philosophy and a sort of realism you’re suggesting, I prefer to separate morals from holes in rules internally. They may or may not feel guilt for this. We may also remove this feeling from our reasoning completely. But that wouldn’t prevent it from glueing things together well enough for them to function. Living in a welcoming environment, with all ethics attached to that, is a fundamental human desire, apart from psychopathological cases. F1 teams managed to negotiate that between themselves and now they’re okay with it - it’s a hard competition all in all. But you’ll have a hard time negotiating $subj’s morality with an open source community of developers and users. The one who spits into a pot of a free meal - is a rat in all countries and cultures. I doubt that F1-ers refrain from spitting on a road just before another box because there’s a rule about it.