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What should they do?

jay_kyburz 4y ago
I've been sitting here reading this whole thread wondering the same thing. I don't really know how I would go about it, but I think the only solution is to make people not want to turn to the drugs in the first place. Make poor people less poor? Make people feel better about their lives and prospects? I guess I would spend a heap of money working out what makes people turn to the drugs and try and help them solve those problems some other way.
- nradov 4y ago
  Many young people are dying of accidental fentanyl poisoning because they get counterfeit sleeping pills or whatever from their friends. Sure we should absolutely reduce the factors that cause people to turn to drugs. But some people are always going to have insomnia. Some people are always going to want to alter their mental state. https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/ https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/
  - herbst 4y ago
    I've taken drugs my whole adult live and never witnessed a faulty product except badly grown weed. There are rules for safe drug use. There are test kits (today, back then they were expensive) and most countries gladly have drug checking places as well. The issue aren't the drugs but the culture and knowledge around it.
    - shapefrog 4y ago
      15 year olds are not going to go to some narc in a suit to check if the smart pills they bought on tiktok are legit or not.
      - herbst 4y ago
        Not sure how drug checkings looks where you are but this is exactly what 15yo me and his peers did.
    - nradov 4y ago
      Your personal experience is meaningless. Mexican drug cartels are literally producing faulty product today. Watch the interview that I linked above. Counterfeit prescription pills randomly contain fatal doses of fentanyl due to poor quality control. There is no "culture" here. It's just some kid getting a pill from a friend at school. They're not going to check it for safety.
- riversflow 4y ago
  My modest proposal is to make drugs OTC for adults. Regulate the supply and most of the problems disappear. The war on drugs has failed, we need to abandon it in the west. People want to get high, not die. Give them the ability to manage their addiction with dignity and safety.
- speakfreely 4y ago
  > Make poor people less poor? Make people feel better about their lives and prospects? I think those are two unrelated issues. There's many places in the world where people have substantially less than in the US but have much higher life satisfaction and extremely lower rates of drug addiction.

I've been sitting here reading this whole thread wondering the same thing. I don't really know how I would go about it, but I think the only solution is to make people not want to turn to the drugs in the first place. Make poor people less poor? Make people feel better about their lives and prospects? I guess I would spend a heap of money working out what makes people turn to the drugs and try and help them solve those problems some other way.

nradov 4y ago
Many young people are dying of accidental fentanyl poisoning because they get counterfeit sleeping pills or whatever from their friends. Sure we should absolutely reduce the factors that cause people to turn to drugs. But some people are always going to have insomnia. Some people are always going to want to alter their mental state. https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/ https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/
- herbst 4y ago
  I've taken drugs my whole adult live and never witnessed a faulty product except badly grown weed. There are rules for safe drug use. There are test kits (today, back then they were expensive) and most countries gladly have drug checking places as well. The issue aren't the drugs but the culture and knowledge around it.
  - shapefrog 4y ago
    15 year olds are not going to go to some narc in a suit to check if the smart pills they bought on tiktok are legit or not.
    - herbst 4y ago
      Not sure how drug checkings looks where you are but this is exactly what 15yo me and his peers did.
  - nradov 4y ago
    Your personal experience is meaningless. Mexican drug cartels are literally producing faulty product today. Watch the interview that I linked above. Counterfeit prescription pills randomly contain fatal doses of fentanyl due to poor quality control. There is no "culture" here. It's just some kid getting a pill from a friend at school. They're not going to check it for safety.
riversflow 4y ago
My modest proposal is to make drugs OTC for adults. Regulate the supply and most of the problems disappear. The war on drugs has failed, we need to abandon it in the west. People want to get high, not die. Give them the ability to manage their addiction with dignity and safety.
speakfreely 4y ago
> Make poor people less poor? Make people feel better about their lives and prospects? I think those are two unrelated issues. There's many places in the world where people have substantially less than in the US but have much higher life satisfaction and extremely lower rates of drug addiction.