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Fun read, but it feels vaguely dystopian to me. The TVA is very, y'know, bad? And using it as your example of how to control org culture because "It can get pro

Fun read, but it feels vaguely dystopian to me. The TVA is very, y'know, bad? And using it as your example of how to control org culture because "It can get problematic if the employees start to question the TVA" feels like the kind of thing you only do when critiquing or satirizing corporate consultancies. Similarly, I am by no means educated on workplace whatnot in general or the Nadler-Tushman Congruence Model specifically, but, at least to me, the diagram under "Evaluating Congruence" would be good parody of a meaningless powerpoint slide if it wasn't real. I think it's the word "Strategy" added in small text to a random arrow that really takes it to the level where my brain needs to start evaluating whether I'm looking at a parody.

drbwaa 4y ago
The whole thing reads like something I might have submitted for a high school writing assignment on a dare.
outworlder 4y ago
> The TVA is very, y'know, bad? And so are corporations.
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  Corporations are only bad when they are powerful.
  - TheNorthman 4y ago
    There doesn't exist a corporation on the planet, that doesn't have power over its employees.
    - marcosdumay 4y ago
      That's why we control the amount of their power. On most of the world, corporations can't genocide their employees.
    - tenpies 4y ago
      Just wait until you learn about governments! It's like a corporation on steroids, with its own army, and it gets to make up the rules.
      - MrJohz 4y ago
        And, thankfully, a democracy and rigorous checks and balances to boot - features that seem consistently lacking in most corporations...
hindsightbias 4y ago
The TVA is bad like IAEA is bad. They're just trying to prevent the crazy.
- Forgeties79 4y ago
  By unilaterally deciding the “right” timeline and purging living beings who don’t fit in lol Also let’s not forget kidnapping, gaslighting, and erasing people’s memories!
  - moron4hire 4y ago
    Exactly. There is an underlying narrative that goes almost unquestioned that Some Evil is necessary to prevent a Greater Evil. That's how we get things like the fucking Patriot Act and this new "TikTok Ban".
    - JadeNB 4y ago
      > There is an underlying narrative that goes almost unquestioned that Some Evil is necessary to prevent a Greater Evil. That's how we get things like the fucking Patriot Act …. There was an awful lot of questioning about the Patriot Act; it just got shouted down. I'm sure there is as much questioning today, it's just that the people who prefer you not question things have got better at shouting you down (or, well, more than shouting).
- CobrastanJorji 4y ago
  "The crazy" being prevented in that sentence is the life of nearly every sentient being.
  - sleepybrett 4y ago
    That's not true. Just the the life of any sentient being that is not incorporated into the sacred timelines.
    - 4y ago
CyberDildonics 4y ago
Similarly, I am by no means educated on workplace whatnot in general or the Nadler-Tushman Congruence Model What does this mean?
- parthianshotgun 4y ago
  It means he's just a regular person not educated in workplace theory
- CobrastanJorji 4y ago
  That weird chart, with the "Environment/Resources/History" inputs and the "Transformational Process" of "Culture/Work/People/Structure", is called the "Nadler-Tushman Congruence Model" and it has, like, actual papers written about it for places like the "Journal of Organisational Transformation & Social Change": https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=nadler-tushman+congruence+model&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=nadler-tushman+congruen... I lack the awareness of the field to judge whether it expresses something profound or is absolute bullshit.
whatgoodisaroad 4y ago
I wouldn't say it's a given that the TVA is bad. It depends profoundly on who you're asking.
michael1999 4y ago
Is != ought. Paranoid police states also need to understand system design. And they may be clearer about the conflicts between human nature and organizational mission than public comms allow. Consider that the NSA built their spooky-STASI data warehouse of all communications anywhere/anytime/forever in Utah. Perhaps someone believes it will be easier to recruit for a culture of secret archives in Utah than in Maryland.

drbwaa 4y ago

The whole thing reads like something I might have submitted for a high school writing assignment on a dare.

outworlder 4y ago

> The TVA is very, y'know, bad? And so are corporations.

marcosdumay 4y ago
Corporations are only bad when they are powerful.
- TheNorthman 4y ago
  There doesn't exist a corporation on the planet, that doesn't have power over its employees.
  - marcosdumay 4y ago
    That's why we control the amount of their power. On most of the world, corporations can't genocide their employees.
  - tenpies 4y ago
    Just wait until you learn about governments! It's like a corporation on steroids, with its own army, and it gets to make up the rules.
    - MrJohz 4y ago
      And, thankfully, a democracy and rigorous checks and balances to boot - features that seem consistently lacking in most corporations...

hindsightbias 4y ago

The TVA is bad like IAEA is bad. They're just trying to prevent the crazy.

Forgeties79 4y ago
By unilaterally deciding the “right” timeline and purging living beings who don’t fit in lol Also let’s not forget kidnapping, gaslighting, and erasing people’s memories!
- moron4hire 4y ago
  Exactly. There is an underlying narrative that goes almost unquestioned that Some Evil is necessary to prevent a Greater Evil. That's how we get things like the fucking Patriot Act and this new "TikTok Ban".
  - JadeNB 4y ago
    > There is an underlying narrative that goes almost unquestioned that Some Evil is necessary to prevent a Greater Evil. That's how we get things like the fucking Patriot Act …. There was an awful lot of questioning about the Patriot Act; it just got shouted down. I'm sure there is as much questioning today, it's just that the people who prefer you not question things have got better at shouting you down (or, well, more than shouting).
CobrastanJorji 4y ago
"The crazy" being prevented in that sentence is the life of nearly every sentient being.
- sleepybrett 4y ago
  That's not true. Just the the life of any sentient being that is not incorporated into the sacred timelines.
  - 4y ago

CyberDildonics 4y ago

Similarly, I am by no means educated on workplace whatnot in general or the Nadler-Tushman Congruence Model What does this mean?

parthianshotgun 4y ago
It means he's just a regular person not educated in workplace theory
CobrastanJorji 4y ago
That weird chart, with the "Environment/Resources/History" inputs and the "Transformational Process" of "Culture/Work/People/Structure", is called the "Nadler-Tushman Congruence Model" and it has, like, actual papers written about it for places like the "Journal of Organisational Transformation & Social Change": https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=nadler-tushman+congruence+model&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=nadler-tushman+congruen... I lack the awareness of the field to judge whether it expresses something profound or is absolute bullshit.

whatgoodisaroad 4y ago

I wouldn't say it's a given that the TVA is bad. It depends profoundly on who you're asking.

michael1999 4y ago

Is != ought. Paranoid police states also need to understand system design. And they may be clearer about the conflicts between human nature and organizational mission than public comms allow. Consider that the NSA built their spooky-STASI data warehouse of all communications anywhere/anytime/forever in Utah. Perhaps someone believes it will be easier to recruit for a culture of secret archives in Utah than in Maryland.