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The new Microsoft Teams, now in preview
- j00pY 4y agoI use it on Mac but I'm really excited to see how much better it is, as I think its really poor compared to its competitors.
- favsq 4y agoI have seen the comparison video and I am unimpressed. A company with the legacy in software development that Microsoft has should be ashamed of how slow both versions load and how jittery everything seems. It is 2023, how can they find it acceptable that loading is so slow that UI elements appear one by one? That's something I expect from a computer running Windows 95 on a 386DX.
- revendell_elf 4y agoYes! It's hard to believe that this company made an entire OS. No matter how much revenue Teams is generating, given the number of users, it deserves a native app, not a webview!
- Nextgrid 4y ago> A company with the legacy in software development that Microsoft has should be ashamed of how slow both versions load and how jittery everything seems. That ship sailed long ago after they excreted the turd that is Windows 8 and its successors.
- pjmlp 4y agoUWP was actually alright, alongside .NET Native and C++/CX, however they fully borked the whole development experience how to adopt them. Advise from a recovering UWP advocate, stay away from Windows Runtime (WinUI and WinAppSDK) as much as possible.
- pelagicAustral 4y agoYou probably wouldn't get performance this bad back in 95 since we used to build native apps for the desktop. Unlike these days were a bunch of dingbats are pushing the js agenda beyond the limits of whats reasonable acceptable.
- 72deluxe 4y agoThis is an excellent summary of the problem. The sad thing is that most users consider this perfectly normal and acceptable, and even users who have used computers for 30+ years seem to think these sluggish, crap "apps" are perfectly acceptable. It's bonkers.
- 72deluxe 4y agoYes I was shocked that they thought a 9.1 second launch time was good?! How long did MSN Messenger take to launch back on a Pentium 1?
- carlycue 4y agoThis is anecdotal evidence but I have never seen a person use Microsoft 365 suite of Apps in real life. It’s always Google web apps and Slack. Who is this mysterious Microsoft customer that has made them the 2nd most valuable company in the world?
- djpr 4y agoEvery gov't and major international organisation I have worked with is on the Microsoft 365 platform. They all use teams, some even prohibit the use of Google Meets or Zoom
- Qem 4y agoMicrosoft is a favorite amidst corrupt officials, specially in poor countries with weak controls, as it's a bribe-friendly company. See https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contracting https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreig...
- hulitu 4y agoMicrosoft is a favorite amidst corrupt officials, specially in rich countries with weak controls, as it's a lobby-friendly company.
- hrrsn 4y agoI'd guess the majority of large enterprises are using the 365 stack. I've had more Teams calls today than Zoom calls throughout the entire pandemic.
- Nextgrid 4y agoMicrosoft has no chance in the tech/startup world where workers have enough power to reject garbage solutions. Their market is big legacy companies where tools aren't chosen based on merit (instead chosen on buzzwords, kickbacks or money under the table) and where the day-to-day users of those tools don't have the power to demand change.
- studentik 4y agoAny chance browser version will work well? Currently authentication issues and user experience is terrible IMHO, sorry.