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VR, meta verse always seemed overhyped to me. Combine real time 3D model generated from MetaHuman + AR + ChatGPT + voice and you have a business that will dwarf
by qaq 4y ago
VR, meta verse always seemed overhyped to me. Combine real time 3D model generated from MetaHuman + AR + ChatGPT + voice and you have a business that will dwarf Apple. I bet people would easily pay 100/month for AR companion based on their celeb crush or whatever other AR companion they crave.
- zabzonk 4y agoonly if you are incredibly weird. but if you think so, sounds like a good start-up.
- qaq 4y agoOr lonely or bored. Want a cyberpunk cyborg dog that can speak in a voice of darth vader? Want Cara Delevingne to be your english lang tutor? Want to pair program with Linus Torvalds? Want Neytiri from Avatar to be your personal Yoga instructor?
- zabzonk 4y agonope, don't want any of them, though i must admit i quite like cara.
- qaq 4y agoI find it hard to believe that you can not come up with a single AR scenario that will either make learning process, work process or entertainment option more fun.
- zabzonk 4y agoisn't this about vr rather than ar? i can certainly think about situations where ar would be useful, though none have been demonstrated to be viable yet - rather the reverse when you think of things like google glass.
- qaq 4y agoThe whole premise of my comment Meta, Disney etc overfocused on VR when AR will be way bigger market and we have the tech that will make it viable.
- zabzonk 4y agoi don't think that, lovely though she is, i wan't cara to pop up in my glasses (which, because of bad eyesight, i wear all the time) and no, i do not think we have the technology, particularly batteries. i will admit that if i could ask my glasses "where is the nearest atm?" and it then popped up an arrow pointing at it, i might pay for that. but that means stuffing a lot of hardware into the frames - about the equivalent of a high-end smartphone.
- jlarocco 4y agoI'd rather just have a real person or go it alone. Maybe I'm too old or too anti-social, but using an AR or VR for those things seems kind of sad and depressing to me.
- vidarh 4y agoFor me, I think it's that I consume text much faster than e.g. video or someone talking, and it doesn't distract me. I just want to be left alone when I want to focus and learn things. I love using ChatGPT to explore a subject now, though, because it's pure text and I am driving it, so I can totally see people who are more visual and social learners want something similar "packaged up" in an avatar.
- robopsychology 4y agoI can’t imagine wanting any AR company myself; I see it’s benefit to certain groups like the elderly but hope I never have to use such a startup
- zabzonk 4y ago> like the elderly really? i cannot imagine strapping my late mum into some vr headset.
- robopsychology 4y agoNo but I heard Alexa had proved useful for elderly loneliness and I imagine this tech will improve there - I agree I don’t see them sat in an Oculus at a gaming rig lol
- jlarocco 4y ago> I can’t imagine wanting any AR company myself; Glad I'm not the only one. I don't see the appeal at all.
- paganel 4y agoThe people in here are certainly the minority, at least for now. I hope it will remain that way, but you never know.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago>only if you are incredibly weird Pretty sure people had the exact reaction when online dating came out thinking you must be some social outcast. Or when some people chose to WFH way before it became remotely normal and were branded antisocial for choosing to not be in the office with the colleagues. Why be such a hater? I don't get it. Just because some people are into different things than you or what society deems 'normal' doesn't make them weirdoes.
- zabzonk 4y agoi do think having a relationship with an ai is pretty weird, but i can kind of understand it - a meme that has been around a bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru . and it doesn't mean i hate people who want to do this.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago>i do think having a relationship with an ai is pretty weird Mate, have you seen how much money onlyfans girls are raking in from just talking to simps or other lonely and desperate men online? Can be as high as millions USD per month. And they don't even do any explicit nudity for their money, they just send ludes and texts. And the texts are usually written by some people the girl hired since she can't reply to all of them. Those guys are getting taken to the cleaners. Seems like a niche that could be filled via an AI for cheaper. ChatGPT-3 had some awesome humor before it got lobotomized to be a mundane question answering drone. Could probably replace some standup comedians too.
- vidarh 4y agoIf you're old enough to remember Tamagotchi, consider how attached some people got to something that basic.
- notahacker 4y agoI'm now imagining a "Talk with your AI-powered pets" interface that is a pseudo-ChatGPT style interface that just responds to everything you say with "woof" or "miaow" :D (I'm surprised that afaik nobody has really cracked the "Tamagotchi" pet care formula on smartphones, which seemed ideally suited to a visually and sonically enhanced version of the same basic ritual)
- vidarh 4y agoI think part of the problem of doing it on a smartphone is that software-only breaks the illusion in a way that makes it necessary to go further to counter it. I think people find it harder to connect to something they see as "just software" without any embodiment to the point that we connect more easily to something "dumber" if it's embodied in some way or other or we can imagine it to be. For that reason, I suspect that to do it with a smartphone, you'd do better with a chatbot talking to users via e.g. Whatsapp or another messenger than a custom app, because people associate messengers with real people rather than a "game".
- otabdeveloper4 4y agoKeyword "got", that fad lasted like all of six months.
- Waterluvian 4y agoHolodeck. You put the goggles on and ask for Einstein and a chalk board. Then you have a conversation.
- drewcoo 4y agoThe ST:TNG holodeck was a crutch for bad writing. It was even worse than ST:TOS's time travel. I hope the XR future is more creative.
- dreen 4y agoThe point of useful technology is to make things more convenient. This is less convienient than typing queries on a keyboard, even if there were no HMD involved.
- ozten 4y agoIf Einstein creates some 3D graphs or plays a simulation to make his point, it will be more convenient to already be in that world.
- causality0 4y agoMy biggest issue has always been that users are really damn good at immersing themselves using just a screen and a controller, and that's about a hundred times more convenient than any VR system.
- qaq 4y agoSure but that limits the applications. Want to have Gordon Ramsey to advise you while you are cooking? Or have r2d2 roaming your house? or play poker at your actual house with lock stock and two smoking barrels characters? and so on ...
- iudqnolq 4y ago> Want to have Gordon Ramsey to advise you while you are cooking? We got that way back when god invented the book. Or I could prop my phone up against the back of the counter and have a little youtube in my field of view.
- causality0 4y agoTo do those things you're already going to have to make VR an order of magnitude more convenient than it currently is, which means it's not relevant to my comment.
- qaq 4y agoI am not talking about VR I am talking about AR.
- causality0 4y agoThen why did you reply to a comment about VR?
- qaq 4y agoBecause most companies were looking at both but over-focusing on VR
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoThe immersive VR rides that they are coming up with at the amusement parks are pretty good. The Avatar Dragon ride, Rise of the Resistance, etc...Universal Studios is going in this direction more aggressively, however it seems (just check out the new Mario ride).
- maverick2007 4y agoI think you're confusing rides, Flight of Passage (Avatar) to the best of my knowledge is not VR (maybe traditional 3D glasses), Rise is definitely not VR (not even 3D) and Mario Kart is AR with a headset overlaying graphics over physical sets. None of them are VR in the traditional sense of the word. The biggest test of VR at theme parks in the US came with various Six Flags around the country strapping VR goggles (Samsung IIRC) on some of their coasters and drop towers. They're pretty widely regarded as failures. I got to try two of them and they definitely were not a plus to the ride experience, especially on a drop tower where the view from the top is half the fun.
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoThey are immersive, not using glasses, but projected environments and some kind of movement device being ridden. Why not just call it more expensive VR without headgear at that point?
- johnwalkr 4y agoThe Mario kart ride is probably the most disappointing I’ve ridden in my life. It’s just a slow roller coaster with an overlay of other karts using HoloLens.
- justinclift 4y agoPossibly interestingly, a Japanese Anime series called Dennou Coil (2007) has very well thought out AR. eg: * https://youtu.be/hSm_vG586II?t=38 https://youtu.be/hSm_vG586II?t=38 (safe for work, as is the whole series) * https://youtu.be/hSm_vG586II?t=212 https://youtu.be/hSm_vG586II?t=212 The anime series itself is really good. Kind of a science-fiction mystery story.
- justinclift 4y agoJust remembered another anime that also shows AR as a daily life thing, The Orbital Children: * https://youtu.be/6vJPJHhs2Xs https://youtu.be/6vJPJHhs2Xs (also safe for work) That one has a less fleshed out / "natural" use of AR compared to Dennou Coil, but it's still pretty good. It's only 6 episodes, and should be available on Netflix in most countries already. Not sure if Dennou Coil is.
- sdiupIGPWEfh 4y agoWith both series written and directed by Mitsuo Iso, who also contributed to storyboards, key animation, and digital effects. Iso had a remarkable career and notable animation style even well before Dennou Coil. It's only unfortunate that there's such massive gap between productions of his own original works.
- sogen 4y agoThanks. Been always looking for something similar to Dennou Coil, and now this arrives, and by the same author! A very nice surprise
- sdiupIGPWEfh 4y agoSeriously, anyone with an interest in AR/VR and even a passing tolerance for anime ought to give Dennou Coil a chance. For those curious, it's better than just safe for work, it's a family friendly series that you could watch with your kids (or your parents).
- sogen 4y agoDennou Coil! Really on a whole new level, definitely a must watch for everyone reading this, great story(ies).
- camillomiller 4y agoI don’t think you understand the scale of “dwarfing” Apple
- stn_za 4y agoApple really isn't all that. Technically, much meh. Mindshare/Fashion statement is where it's at. That can change.
- aflag 4y agoI think we're talking about market cap here and being a fashion company or a tech company doesn't really make a difference.
- camillomiller 4y agoWow, you really do not understand Apple, and you’re even proud of that.
- stn_za 4y agoI understand it's a cult like following, which I suppose is what you meant without giving any more details
- andsoitis 4y agoWhat is a metahuman?
- timlod 4y agohttps://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/metahuman https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/metahuman
- coldtea 4y agoIn this context, it's like a crappy social media avatar, but in 3D. In other contexts, it's rich white guys dreaming of leaving their puny body and becoming Ubermech with the help of tech...
- Name_Chawps 4y agoIt's a shame AR technology is vaporware and doesn't really exist yet.