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Chinese expats are frequently "extradited" to face torture via the Chinese police stations set up in foreign countries around the would.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago
Not just Chinese expats, you could totally switch your citizenship to Swedish and still get abducted by the Chinese government in Thailand.
- Jochim 4y ago
  Glass houses: > The administration of President George W. Bush abducted hundreds of "illegal combatants" for U.S. detention, and transported detainees to U.S.-controlled sites as part of an extensive interrogation program that included torture. > Extraordinary rendition continued under the Obama administration, with targets being interrogated and subsequently taken to the U.S. for trial. > A June 2006 report estimated that one hundred people had been kidnapped by the CIA on European Union soil [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
  - mikrotikker 4y ago
    Yes that is also bad. You want a cookie?
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Jochim 4y ago
Has there been some kind of collective amnesia regarding Guantanamo bay or the torture that took place in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did America's campaign of drone strikes simply not occur? In less recent memory we might recall the US "protecting democracy" by providing direct financial, training, operational training, and the occasional assassination to military coups/dictators in Latin America[0]. Allies of the US certainly have it a lot easier but it doesn't mean their leaders communications won't be monitored [1]. China's behaviour is certainly objectionable but as someone that lives in neither country the US has a much more worrying history of foreign interference. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055
- mikrotikker 4y ago
  Just because one thing is bad doesnt mean another thing is suddenly rendered not bad. Come on.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago

Not just Chinese expats, you could totally switch your citizenship to Swedish and still get abducted by the Chinese government in Thailand.

Jochim 4y ago
Glass houses: > The administration of President George W. Bush abducted hundreds of "illegal combatants" for U.S. detention, and transported detainees to U.S.-controlled sites as part of an extensive interrogation program that included torture. > Extraordinary rendition continued under the Obama administration, with targets being interrogated and subsequently taken to the U.S. for trial. > A June 2006 report estimated that one hundred people had been kidnapped by the CIA on European Union soil [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
- mikrotikker 4y ago
  Yes that is also bad. You want a cookie?
- deleted 4y ago
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Jochim 4y ago

Has there been some kind of collective amnesia regarding Guantanamo bay or the torture that took place in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did America's campaign of drone strikes simply not occur? In less recent memory we might recall the US "protecting democracy" by providing direct financial, training, operational training, and the occasional assassination to military coups/dictators in Latin America[0]. Allies of the US certainly have it a lot easier but it doesn't mean their leaders communications won't be monitored [1]. China's behaviour is certainly objectionable but as someone that lives in neither country the US has a much more worrying history of foreign interference. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

mikrotikker 4y ago
Just because one thing is bad doesnt mean another thing is suddenly rendered not bad. Come on.