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Is this a bit like how Windows preserves capitalization but doesn't otherwise care about it? (except in WSL of course) - or is it something more complex

Aaron2222 4y ago
APFS does the exact same thing with capitalisation as well (presuming you're using case-insensitive APFS, which is the default).
- cynix 4y ago
  I thought the default has been case-sensitive for a while.
  - riceart 4y ago
    You thought wrong.
sumtechguy 4y ago
Windows has a flag for that for it to respect case. But it would probably bug out a bunch of programs. I usually see it with samba shares. But you can get it to do it on the local filesystem too if you try hard enough. Also it is a bit of a pain when it does happen if you get two files with the 'same name'. One file will be basically invisible to most of the normal windows tools.
IshKebab 4y ago
Similar except that you can see the difference between lowercase and uppercase.
messe 4y ago
Kind of. Imagine if capital letters looked identical to regular letters just with a different byte representation, but Windows preserved them regardless. Well, it turns out that Unicode can represent a lot of characters by way of different possible encodings (for example é could be a single codepoint, or the codepoint of e followed by the codepoint of an acute accent).
- SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
  Notes does something like this for some reason. The quotes that are used in the Notes app that are then copy pasted into other apps like Terminal or a code editor are not the same as the quotes we use every day. I think some apps are smart enough to fix this by default (perhaps IntelliJ?) but otherwise it’s the source of a non-negligible amount of annoyance if you like to use Notes for whatever reason
  - Tagbert 4y ago
    that’s because curly quotes are different characters from the straight quote characters that you can see on your keyboard. Some apps will convert straight quotes to curly quotes to “help” you. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html
  - sprayk 4y ago
    in system settings somewhere you should be able to disable smart quotes (or something like that).

Aaron2222 4y ago

APFS does the exact same thing with capitalisation as well (presuming you're using case-insensitive APFS, which is the default).

cynix 4y ago
I thought the default has been case-sensitive for a while.
- riceart 4y ago
  You thought wrong.

sumtechguy 4y ago

Windows has a flag for that for it to respect case. But it would probably bug out a bunch of programs. I usually see it with samba shares. But you can get it to do it on the local filesystem too if you try hard enough. Also it is a bit of a pain when it does happen if you get two files with the 'same name'. One file will be basically invisible to most of the normal windows tools.

IshKebab 4y ago

Similar except that you can see the difference between lowercase and uppercase.

messe 4y ago

Kind of. Imagine if capital letters looked identical to regular letters just with a different byte representation, but Windows preserved them regardless. Well, it turns out that Unicode can represent a lot of characters by way of different possible encodings (for example é could be a single codepoint, or the codepoint of e followed by the codepoint of an acute accent).

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
Notes does something like this for some reason. The quotes that are used in the Notes app that are then copy pasted into other apps like Terminal or a code editor are not the same as the quotes we use every day. I think some apps are smart enough to fix this by default (perhaps IntelliJ?) but otherwise it’s the source of a non-negligible amount of annoyance if you like to use Notes for whatever reason
- Tagbert 4y ago
  that’s because curly quotes are different characters from the straight quote characters that you can see on your keyboard. Some apps will convert straight quotes to curly quotes to “help” you. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html
- sprayk 4y ago
  in system settings somewhere you should be able to disable smart quotes (or something like that).