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I know that this isn't the point of the article: > “something like Twitter but with real names and enforced civility, and with hashtags as Slack-like channels

I know that this isn't the point of the article: > “something like Twitter but with real names and enforced civility, and with hashtags as Slack-like channels of interest.” but why is having real names on a chat app a good thing? Considering what's happening worldwide, anonymity online should always come first.

dang 4y ago
Also how do you "enforce civility"? That seems like an oxymoron.
- retSava 4y ago
  To me that sounds like pre-eternal september rather than an achievement, a lucky happenstance before the floodgates are open.
- AdamN 4y ago
  Really any of the platforms can support it. Reddit has 'reddiquette' and all it would take is allow reporting on more civility-oriented offenses (like cursing, etc...). Most social networks currently don't allow reporting low-level offenses so it's either a major violation or just ignored entirely. I would greatly prefer Reddit and Twitter if I could cut out large chunks of low quality posters.
  - dsr_ 4y ago
    Usenet already offered this lesson: every user needs an immediately accessible killfile that can prevent them from seeing: - this obnoxious user, anywhere - this obnoxious user, in this thread/group - this obnoxious user, using any of these keywords - any user using these keywords in this thread/group/anywhere Any social media system that doesn't offer these needs a much more expensive moderation system.
r00fus 4y ago
I guess there is something to be said about your speech having intended consequences (ie, preventing attacks/vitriol), but unintended consequences... Arguably everything is E2E encrypted but that won't prevent someone in the discussion from taking a screenshot (thus removing context) and tweeting it, will it?
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  Sure, but also chat software usually makes group chats possible, and with some (eg. telegram) you have groups with 100k+ people there. Considering the amount of politically-incorrect, politically-sensitive etc. stuff (ukraine-russia war, anti government protests, recently anti-covid protests, basic software/... piracy, ...), having anonimity is a huge feature.

dang 4y ago

Also how do you "enforce civility"? That seems like an oxymoron.

retSava 4y ago
To me that sounds like pre-eternal september rather than an achievement, a lucky happenstance before the floodgates are open.
AdamN 4y ago
Really any of the platforms can support it. Reddit has 'reddiquette' and all it would take is allow reporting on more civility-oriented offenses (like cursing, etc...). Most social networks currently don't allow reporting low-level offenses so it's either a major violation or just ignored entirely. I would greatly prefer Reddit and Twitter if I could cut out large chunks of low quality posters.
- dsr_ 4y ago
  Usenet already offered this lesson: every user needs an immediately accessible killfile that can prevent them from seeing: - this obnoxious user, anywhere - this obnoxious user, in this thread/group - this obnoxious user, using any of these keywords - any user using these keywords in this thread/group/anywhere Any social media system that doesn't offer these needs a much more expensive moderation system.

r00fus 4y ago

I guess there is something to be said about your speech having intended consequences (ie, preventing attacks/vitriol), but unintended consequences... Arguably everything is E2E encrypted but that won't prevent someone in the discussion from taking a screenshot (thus removing context) and tweeting it, will it?

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Sure, but also chat software usually makes group chats possible, and with some (eg. telegram) you have groups with 100k+ people there. Considering the amount of politically-incorrect, politically-sensitive etc. stuff (ukraine-russia war, anti government protests, recently anti-covid protests, basic software/... piracy, ...), having anonimity is a huge feature.