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Yet another huge update of features to Safari, building upon the great progress they made last year in: - leading on the Interop 2022 dashboard results [1] -
by happybuy 4y ago
Yet another huge update of features to Safari, building upon the great progress they made last year in:
- leading on the Interop 2022 dashboard results [1]
- posting the best Speedometer score on the Mac [1]
- changing their pace of innovation and releases to deliver newer API features in a quicker manner
[1] https://www.magiclasso.co/insights/triumph-of-safari/ https://www.magiclasso.co/insights/triumph-of-safari/
- frankjr 4y agoI would really like to give Safari a chance but I just cannot get over the fact that there's no support for more advanced ad blockers. Sticking with Firefox/Brave for now.
- pps 4y agoAdGuard (the full, paid version for MacOS) is the way. I don't use Safari anymore, but I'm still happy enough with it to not install anything else for other browsers. Unfortunately, the iOS version only works as an extension for Safari.
- bni 4y agoKa-Block! Open Source ad-blocker with silly name but its great. Vinegar Native video player on youtube, also means no ads. Hush Hides cookie consent dialogs (this sometimes break some sites, thanks EU)
- omnimus 4y agoYou might like Orion from Kagi. https://browser.kagi.com/ https://browser.kagi.com/
- willmeyers 4y agoGot recommended Orion from one these threads and haven't looked back. Love Orion!
- prophesi 4y agoHuge fan of Kagi and Orion, though unfortunately I couldn't live without Firefox's Multi Account Containers. I'd hop back to Orion in a heartbeat if they had something comparable. (And also it's been three months since I used Orion, and development is fast-paced, so things could have changed a lot since then)
- pchangr 4y agoThey are still working on it. [1] Personally, Right now I basically resorted to using several profiles but it only supports 1 profile per window so I end up having sometimes 3 windows at the same time. I still switch from time to time to Firefox but it has actually helped me sometimes to keep focus (I.e work). 1. https://orionfeedback.org/d/43-something-like-firefox-multi-account-containers-by-default https://orionfeedback.org/d/43-something-like-firefox-multi-...
- keyle 4y agoThanks, I didn't know about this one, will try it out. I love safari but the ad blocking sucks, having to run stupid stuff on top (AdGuard for Safari)
- sparker72678 4y agoWhat do you get with advanced ad blockers? I'm using 1Blocker on Safari — what am I missing out on?
- danhau 4y agoThings like blocking ads in YouTube videos, I guess.
- pulvinar 4y agoHave AdGuard for Safari and see no YouTube ads (or anywhere else).
- daniel_iversen 4y agoThere’s an extension for Safari called Vinegar who does this, and due to how Safari works it works on both desktop and mobile!
- ezfe 4y agoWipr blocks YouTube ads without replacing the video player
- stephenr 4y ago... what do you mean by "more advanced"? The default/efficient approach with Safari is content blockers (i.e. a precompiled list of url patterns to block in the engine itself), but extensions can also include javascript too. 1Blocker - a well known 'traditional' safari content-blocker - does this for example, to provide ad blocking on sites like YouTube.
- warning26 4y agoI've found that AdBlockers on Safari don't work well at all. I have 1Blocker on my iPad, and not only does it fail to block YouTube and many other ads, it also seems to slow down Safari and induce crashes + memory leaks.
- stephenr 4y agoI have to admit I don't use 1Blocker for YouTube ads. I use Vinegar, which isn't strictly speaking an ad blocker - what it does is replace the custom YT player with a native platform player (i.e. regular controls you get with a plain <video> element)... this has the side-effect of removing all Youtube ads, and you get familiar controls for the video player. I can't say I've seen any issue with performance or crashes due to 1blocker being active, on phone or Mac (I have on my iPad too but dont use that device any where near as much as the phone/mac)
- wdb 4y ago1Blocker works fine for blocking YouTube. Are you sure you have the `1Blocker Actions` and `1Blocker Scripts` extensions enabled?
- ezfe 4y agoI use Wipr and it handles everything including YouTube ads (iPhone & Mac)
- McAtNite 4y agoStrange, I also have 1Blocker on my iPad, and it blocks YouTube ads just fine in safari.
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- LeoPanthera 4y agoI'm extremely happy with Safari's approach to blockers. I very much appreciate that it is impossible for the extension to receive every URL you are browsing. I've been using AdGuard for Safari (GPL3) and it seems to work perfectly. I'm shocked you'd choose Brave over this, whose security history and business model is very, very questionable.
- tyingq 4y agoI expect that at some point, declarative list ad blockers will stop working as well as they do today. The companies with an interest in working around them probably temper their efforts, because they are aware it drives people to things like uBlock Origin that have more smarts, live heuristics, etc. Once manifest v3 kills that option off, there won't be any easy place for end users to escalate to. Then, they are free to start being more aggressive. Whatever measures they take would work around all the DNS based and declarative semi-static list based approaches.
- pkulak 4y agoHow can you block URLs without seeing them? Is it something where the blocker has to submit all blocked URLs beforehand? Hashing?
- LeoPanthera 4y agoThe blocker provides a list of patterns to the browser, and the browser itself does the blocking.
- vetinari 4y agoSo it can't block youtube ads then, for example. Prepare for future, where such ad system is going to be standard and ad blockers useless.
- dgroshev 4y agoIn practice safari blocks all ads I can see, youtube ads might be an exception but it's one of the few services that is 100% worth paying for, considering how crucial they are, how much time most of us spend watching content there, and how fair their premium offering is.
- dangus 4y agoThis doesn't seem to be true anymore, with products like Wipr Extras going beyond the content blocker API: https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr-faq.html#what-is-wipr-extra https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr-faq.html#what-is-wipr-ext... Naturally, Safari Extensions seem to more frequently cost money since Apple's developers have to pay for Mac hardware and developer accounts. But to say that Safari doesn't have good enough extension capability from a technological level doesn't seem to be true anymore. On my Mac Safari is my default browser due to the battery efficiency and OS integration (e.g., SMS code integration), but I do sometimes use Firefox/Chrome for specific websites where needed, something like 5% of the time.
- executesorder66 4y ago> posting the best Speedometer score on the Mac Are browsers that don't use Webkit as an engine (just their own skin on top of it) allowed on MacOS? Or is that just iOS?
- senttoschool 4y agoYes. macOS is an open platform. You can install whatever you want.
- eis 4y agoYes, MacOS never had similar limitations as on iOS. I'm using Firefox which uses its own renderer as a daily on my Mac. There are signs that iOS will (be forced to?) drop that restriction as well in the future. Google started working on a Blink based Chrome for iOS.
- top_sigrid 4y agoYes they are, what you are talking about is only happening in iOS.
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