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Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirem

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Netflix so the kids don’t have to bug me. It has been great for teaching kids about password hygiene (what makes for a good password) and management (don’t reuse passwords!). And it being cross-platform is great for my older kids with gaming PCs.

e40 4y ago
1Password with son, wife, father and mother... life saver.
ellisv 4y ago
I agree that is one of the big issues with keychain. You can share keychain items with people but it is awkward.
- jtbayly 4y ago
  Are you referring to Airdrop password and passkey sharing?[1] That’s the only way I can find other than manual copy/paste. Also, I very much doubt if I later change the password I shared via Airdrop that it will update on the other person’s device… which is half the point. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passkeys-passwords-securely-airdrop-iph0dd1796bb/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passkeys-passwo...
  - ngai_aku 4y ago
    Yeah, that’s how I share with my wife. I don’t anticipate that it would stay in sync if I updated it, but I can’t say that I’ve tried. Do you regularly rotate passwords?
    - jtbayly 4y ago
      No, but it does happen that passwords get updated, and the beauty of 1P is that you just save it, and then whoever has it gets the updated one. I share passwords with as many as 4 people, so it’s practically impossible to keep everybody in sync manually.
whalesalad 4y ago
A 1pass team w/ my wife was a huge level-up.
- elbigbad 4y ago
  Same, anytime the family creates a new account that everyone else should have access to (utilities, streaming services, bank information, pass codes, etc) we just create it in the shared vault. It’s a game changer.
  - dhc02 4y ago
    Yep, same here. Honestly can't imagine living without it. [Wrings hands as he thinks about 1password's venture funding]
- MobileVet 4y ago
  Our company utilizes 1Password, which means all of our employees have family accounts. As you said, it is SUCH a huge game changer for my wife and me. Honestly don't know how / why I didn't pursue such a solution before hand. It was always 'let me send you a one time password' or 'I can export that key'. What a mess. Shared vault FTW!
Hamuko 4y ago
>Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? I needed to share my Netflix password back in the day. My random alphanumerical 32-character password with special characters drove my family up the wall though. But in general, passwords are for personal use only.
probablynish 4y ago
Bitwarden lets you do this with an 'Organization'. Free to share things between two accounts, looks like $40/yr to share between up to 6 users.
- Jnr 4y ago
  Free if hosting Vaultwarden yourself.
  - mobiuscog 4y ago
    But then your family rely on you for problems, so if anything happens to you, they potentially lose access to their passwords. Self-hosting is great, for as long as you're around to provide support.
Saris 4y ago
I've been using bitwarden for that, the vaultwarden server is selfhosted which is what I do, or you can buy their fairly cheap premium version.
- JenrHywy 4y ago
  Same. Bitwarden (with self-hosted vaultwarden) so far seems to be a great solution. I had ben using `pass` for many years, but the lack of sharing functionality is what finally got me looking at other options.
rodgerd 4y ago
> Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? No, and it's equally bizarre to me that I can't share selected Contacts with my Family account. It would make keeping track of, say, the details of my kids' friends' parents.
prepend 4y ago
That’s interesting. I don’t share any passwords with family and have taught my kids to share passwords with no one (written in a sealed envelope as backup). I don’t like shared passwords although if I really had to, I would just enter it once and let iCloud save it to their account. Stinks if I have to change the password, but I almost never change passwords.
- MobileVet 4y ago
  I definitely appreciate the 'security forward' approach... but what about end of life planning or general 'dad's in a comma and XYZ needs to happen'? 1Password with a 'parents vault' that my wife and I share has been a life changer for coordinating family access to important accounts AND ensuring solid passwords are being used.
  - prepend 4y ago
    I have a piece of paper with my passwords sealed in an envelope stored in a safe place. A few trusted individuals know where that is. This is much more reliable and durable than having 1Password still be around when I need it.
  - crimsontech 4y ago
    I don’t share passwords with family, they all know good password hygiene though and use generated passwords for all their services. For end-of-life scenario apple does have digital legacy https://digital-legacy.apple.com/ https://digital-legacy.apple.com/
    - TheNewsIsHere 4y ago
      Speaking as someone who has lost six family members and managed four of those estates since 2019, these digital legacy features are generally incomplete or developed with little view toward reality. Edit: they’re often also not setup by the user or if they are, they’re not reliably updated. Apple’s implementation, for example, starts a timer that will eventually nuke the account, and it doesn’t provide access to end-to-end encrypted data. That data specifically includes iCloud Keychain, which many people use to store their credentials. I understand the privacy reasons for that, but when we die we are leaving behind increasingly large or complicated estates of accounts, services, apps, and devices with various and sometimes unpredictable safeguards. Having a loved ones actual credentials has been invaluable every time I’ve managed an estate. I absolutely understand what you’re saying and I don’t necessarily disagree with it. But break glass access to credentials has proven important in my experience. Especially where continuity of that access is relied upon by others.
marcellus23 4y ago
> Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family No, and the article specifically discusses that use case and the fact that iCloud keychain doesn't support it.
willhackett 4y ago
Not at all. Bring on the shared family iCloud Note. lol
- unilynx 4y ago
  You can share folders in Notes
  - Jolter 4y ago
    Yes, I think the joke is that they don’t make a very secure “vault” for sharing passwords.

e40 4y ago

1Password with son, wife, father and mother... life saver.

ellisv 4y ago

I agree that is one of the big issues with keychain. You can share keychain items with people but it is awkward.

jtbayly 4y ago
Are you referring to Airdrop password and passkey sharing?[1] That’s the only way I can find other than manual copy/paste. Also, I very much doubt if I later change the password I shared via Airdrop that it will update on the other person’s device… which is half the point. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passkeys-passwords-securely-airdrop-iph0dd1796bb/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passkeys-passwo...
- ngai_aku 4y ago
  Yeah, that’s how I share with my wife. I don’t anticipate that it would stay in sync if I updated it, but I can’t say that I’ve tried. Do you regularly rotate passwords?
  - jtbayly 4y ago
    No, but it does happen that passwords get updated, and the beauty of 1P is that you just save it, and then whoever has it gets the updated one. I share passwords with as many as 4 people, so it’s practically impossible to keep everybody in sync manually.

whalesalad 4y ago

A 1pass team w/ my wife was a huge level-up.

elbigbad 4y ago
Same, anytime the family creates a new account that everyone else should have access to (utilities, streaming services, bank information, pass codes, etc) we just create it in the shared vault. It’s a game changer.
- dhc02 4y ago
  Yep, same here. Honestly can't imagine living without it. [Wrings hands as he thinks about 1password's venture funding]
MobileVet 4y ago
Our company utilizes 1Password, which means all of our employees have family accounts. As you said, it is SUCH a huge game changer for my wife and me. Honestly don't know how / why I didn't pursue such a solution before hand. It was always 'let me send you a one time password' or 'I can export that key'. What a mess. Shared vault FTW!

Hamuko 4y ago

>Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? I needed to share my Netflix password back in the day. My random alphanumerical 32-character password with special characters drove my family up the wall though. But in general, passwords are for personal use only.

probablynish 4y ago

Bitwarden lets you do this with an 'Organization'. Free to share things between two accounts, looks like $40/yr to share between up to 6 users.

Jnr 4y ago
Free if hosting Vaultwarden yourself.
- mobiuscog 4y ago
  But then your family rely on you for problems, so if anything happens to you, they potentially lose access to their passwords. Self-hosting is great, for as long as you're around to provide support.

Saris 4y ago

I've been using bitwarden for that, the vaultwarden server is selfhosted which is what I do, or you can buy their fairly cheap premium version.

JenrHywy 4y ago
Same. Bitwarden (with self-hosted vaultwarden) so far seems to be a great solution. I had ben using `pass` for many years, but the lack of sharing functionality is what finally got me looking at other options.

rodgerd 4y ago

> Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? No, and it's equally bizarre to me that I can't share selected Contacts with my Family account. It would make keeping track of, say, the details of my kids' friends' parents.

prepend 4y ago

That’s interesting. I don’t share any passwords with family and have taught my kids to share passwords with no one (written in a sealed envelope as backup). I don’t like shared passwords although if I really had to, I would just enter it once and let iCloud save it to their account. Stinks if I have to change the password, but I almost never change passwords.

MobileVet 4y ago
I definitely appreciate the 'security forward' approach... but what about end of life planning or general 'dad's in a comma and XYZ needs to happen'? 1Password with a 'parents vault' that my wife and I share has been a life changer for coordinating family access to important accounts AND ensuring solid passwords are being used.
- prepend 4y ago
  I have a piece of paper with my passwords sealed in an envelope stored in a safe place. A few trusted individuals know where that is. This is much more reliable and durable than having 1Password still be around when I need it.
- crimsontech 4y ago
  I don’t share passwords with family, they all know good password hygiene though and use generated passwords for all their services. For end-of-life scenario apple does have digital legacy https://digital-legacy.apple.com/ https://digital-legacy.apple.com/
  - TheNewsIsHere 4y ago
    Speaking as someone who has lost six family members and managed four of those estates since 2019, these digital legacy features are generally incomplete or developed with little view toward reality. Edit: they’re often also not setup by the user or if they are, they’re not reliably updated. Apple’s implementation, for example, starts a timer that will eventually nuke the account, and it doesn’t provide access to end-to-end encrypted data. That data specifically includes iCloud Keychain, which many people use to store their credentials. I understand the privacy reasons for that, but when we die we are leaving behind increasingly large or complicated estates of accounts, services, apps, and devices with various and sometimes unpredictable safeguards. Having a loved ones actual credentials has been invaluable every time I’ve managed an estate. I absolutely understand what you’re saying and I don’t necessarily disagree with it. But break glass access to credentials has proven important in my experience. Especially where continuity of that access is relied upon by others.

marcellus23 4y ago

> Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family No, and the article specifically discusses that use case and the fact that iCloud keychain doesn't support it.

willhackett 4y ago

Not at all. Bring on the shared family iCloud Note. lol

unilynx 4y ago
You can share folders in Notes
- Jolter 4y ago
  Yes, I think the joke is that they don’t make a very secure “vault” for sharing passwords.