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I just dual-boot, altought I usually try the game via Proton and it often "just works" on Linux. Way too many of my hobby stuff is better dealt with on Linux

by ilyt 4y ago

4ggr0 4y ago
> dual-boot Don't know why I never considered this... Should try it :D Then I could use Windows for video editing and windows-only games and Linux for everything else.
- bombolo 4y ago
  what's wrong with kdenlive?
  - 4ggr0 4y ago
    I could try it out again. Tried to use it like 5 years ago and wasn't that happy, but don't remember why. I think the video playback was very laggy and I had more crashes than tolerable. Saw that it's even usable on Windows, so I could try the workflow before having to switch the OS completely. Currently I'm using Davinci Resolve but I'm not really a power-user anyways. Thanks for the tip!
- trinsic2 4y ago
  > video editing Yes I recently switched from windows to PopOS[1] and this is one thing that I haven't found a solution for. There doesn't seem to be any good video editing software for Linux other than blender and in my experience video editing on blender isn't that great. [1]: https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transition-windows-to-linux/ https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transi...
  - tracker1 4y ago
    Most seem to prefer KdenlLive or Davinci Resolve (which has a free version, but many pony up for the paid version, get the hardware key). A lot of the YouTubers I follow have started using Davinci, even those sticking to Mac and Windows.
    - 4ggr0 4y ago
      > or Davinci Resolve AFAIK Proprietary codecs(H.264/265, AAC) are not supported on Davinci Resolve on Linux. Maybe they fixed it since I last checked.
      - tracker1 4y ago
        I guess not, which is surprising... maybe Davinci uses OS provided codecs in Windows and Mac? From a thread I looked at... ------ Did you try the Linux appimage of "Shutter Encoder" shutterencoder.com/en/, it works fine for me to convert H.265 to DNxHD or DNxHR (a better format than h.@265 for editing in Davinci) and I can use these files in the free version of Davinci Resolve 17 & 18. But I'm just a hobbyist and I'm using Davinci only for basic things, I'm at the beginning of my learning path... So I hope I'm not giving you a bad advice ! I'm on Arch Linux with ffmpeg4.4
red-iron-pine 4y ago
WINE is pretty good, and Proton is basically pre-polished WINE. Works basically just out of the box, and anything that doesn't work perfectly can usually be addressed with posts in the WineDB or ProtonDB
- 4ggr0 4y ago
  Unfortunately Gaming on Windows is "basically flawless", compared to Proton being "pretty good". I just got sick of debugging games because I didn't want to do the same thing during my free-time which I'm doing during the day at work. Now, I love Linux and don't really like Windows that much, but when I want to game I just want the experience to be as smooth and easy as possible. And if I spend thousands of dollars on hardware I want it to be used as effectively as possible. Maybe the problem with gaming on Linux is my own laziness...
  - trinsic2 4y ago
    When's the last time you gamed on Linux? In the past few years protons come a long way in my humble opinion.
    - 4ggr0 4y ago
      Beginning of last year. But then I wanted to 1) game in VR again and 2) play games with friends which contained anti-cheat software which wasn't compatible with Windows, so I spontaneously went back to Windows for these two things. I'm someone who switches games pretty fast, I'm not one to play the same multiplayer game for a long time. So each time I started a new game, I had to debug in Linux to get it working. Since January I've played Planet Crafter, Steep, Back 4 Blood, Bioshock Infinite, Atomic Heart, Hogwarts Legacy and now Elden Ring. No idea what percentage of these games "just work" on Linux, but I doubt that the experience would be the same as on Windows.
  - xxs 4y ago
    Gaming on Windows is quite broken for ultrawide screen, or dual/triple screens. Other than that shader compilation is the bane of many (depends on the CPU) - resulting into 'random' stutters. The latter issues are a poster child of the fact most games are just console ports. So calling 'flawless' is an overstatement.

I just dual-boot, altought I usually try the game via Proton and it often "just works" on Linux. Way too many of my hobby stuff is better dealt with on Linux

by ilyt 4y ago

I just dual-boot, altought I usually try the game via Proton and it often "just works" on Linux. Way too many of my hobby stuff is better dealt with on Linux

4ggr0 4y ago

> dual-boot Don't know why I never considered this... Should try it :D Then I could use Windows for video editing and windows-only games and Linux for everything else.

bombolo 4y ago
what's wrong with kdenlive?
- 4ggr0 4y ago
  I could try it out again. Tried to use it like 5 years ago and wasn't that happy, but don't remember why. I think the video playback was very laggy and I had more crashes than tolerable. Saw that it's even usable on Windows, so I could try the workflow before having to switch the OS completely. Currently I'm using Davinci Resolve but I'm not really a power-user anyways. Thanks for the tip!
trinsic2 4y ago
> video editing Yes I recently switched from windows to PopOS[1] and this is one thing that I haven't found a solution for. There doesn't seem to be any good video editing software for Linux other than blender and in my experience video editing on blender isn't that great. [1]: https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transition-windows-to-linux/ https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transi...
- tracker1 4y ago
  Most seem to prefer KdenlLive or Davinci Resolve (which has a free version, but many pony up for the paid version, get the hardware key). A lot of the YouTubers I follow have started using Davinci, even those sticking to Mac and Windows.
  - 4ggr0 4y ago
    > or Davinci Resolve AFAIK Proprietary codecs(H.264/265, AAC) are not supported on Davinci Resolve on Linux. Maybe they fixed it since I last checked.
    - tracker1 4y ago
      I guess not, which is surprising... maybe Davinci uses OS provided codecs in Windows and Mac? From a thread I looked at... ------ Did you try the Linux appimage of "Shutter Encoder" shutterencoder.com/en/, it works fine for me to convert H.265 to DNxHD or DNxHR (a better format than h.@265 for editing in Davinci) and I can use these files in the free version of Davinci Resolve 17 & 18. But I'm just a hobbyist and I'm using Davinci only for basic things, I'm at the beginning of my learning path... So I hope I'm not giving you a bad advice ! I'm on Arch Linux with ffmpeg4.4

red-iron-pine 4y ago

WINE is pretty good, and Proton is basically pre-polished WINE. Works basically just out of the box, and anything that doesn't work perfectly can usually be addressed with posts in the WineDB or ProtonDB

4ggr0 4y ago
Unfortunately Gaming on Windows is "basically flawless", compared to Proton being "pretty good". I just got sick of debugging games because I didn't want to do the same thing during my free-time which I'm doing during the day at work. Now, I love Linux and don't really like Windows that much, but when I want to game I just want the experience to be as smooth and easy as possible. And if I spend thousands of dollars on hardware I want it to be used as effectively as possible. Maybe the problem with gaming on Linux is my own laziness...
- trinsic2 4y ago
  When's the last time you gamed on Linux? In the past few years protons come a long way in my humble opinion.
  - 4ggr0 4y ago
    Beginning of last year. But then I wanted to 1) game in VR again and 2) play games with friends which contained anti-cheat software which wasn't compatible with Windows, so I spontaneously went back to Windows for these two things. I'm someone who switches games pretty fast, I'm not one to play the same multiplayer game for a long time. So each time I started a new game, I had to debug in Linux to get it working. Since January I've played Planet Crafter, Steep, Back 4 Blood, Bioshock Infinite, Atomic Heart, Hogwarts Legacy and now Elden Ring. No idea what percentage of these games "just work" on Linux, but I doubt that the experience would be the same as on Windows.
- xxs 4y ago
  Gaming on Windows is quite broken for ultrawide screen, or dual/triple screens. Other than that shader compilation is the bane of many (depends on the CPU) - resulting into 'random' stutters. The latter issues are a poster child of the fact most games are just console ports. So calling 'flawless' is an overstatement.