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I disagree. In our private life complexity is the enemy. Living a simple, minimalist or quasi-minimalist life, devoid from consumerism can increase one's quali

I disagree. In our private life complexity is the enemy. Living a simple, minimalist or quasi-minimalist life, devoid from consumerism can increase one's quality of life by an order of magnitude.

Godel_unicode 4y ago
Maybe for you, but that sounds like hell. We shouldn’t be monks whenever we’re off the clock, what’s the point?
- saulpw 4y ago
  To smell the ocean To kiss your lover To play with your dog To ponder the stars To reflect on what is the point This is the opposite of hell.
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  - Godel_unicode 4y ago
    Maybe for you.
    - saulpw 4y ago
      For me and all the sages from antiquity to present day and everyone I know who has been truly happy. If these things seem like hell to you, you might want to consider why..
      - Godel_unicode 4y ago
        That is such a hilarious oversimplification and overstatement of the “sages from antiquity” that I can only respond that you should go and actually read some of them. The balance and give and take will be surprising and a good use of your time. Life is about doing things, if all you do is think about things you’re broken.
        saulpw 4y ago
        If you're up for it, let's have a face-to-face videochat and talk about it! Email is in my bio.
        Godel_unicode 4y ago
        I’m not really looking for clients at the moment, and that’s also something you should try to tackle in person. That said, I don’t think you need my help, just try doing things. It might be uncomfortable at first but you’ll get there.
marcosdumay 4y ago
Minimalist is not the opposite of complexity. Really, people working on software should be deeply aware of that. You can have both or neither. And if you go radically optimizing for one, you will certainly get the unwanted extreme of the other (because well, that's what "radical" means).
- WallyFunk 4y ago
  > Minimalist is not the opposite of complexity Simple living actually works. I've tried it. Complexity is not your friend. But that doesn't mean I avoid complexity at all costs. After all I'm typing this on a computer which is the most complex possession I have.
ChildOfChaos 4y ago
I agree that it is complexity that is the enemy. It's not all about being a minimalist though. The issue is in work, there are many things already decided by other people, you are just the cog in the machine making choices in your own lane, after work, in your own life, you are responsible for everything and you have to decide, those decisions are complex and energy draining and you have to make them constantly, your time is limited, so you can only choose to do a few things, but how do you know what is best and even worse you usually always don't estimate the time that is required at all.

I disagree. In our private life complexity is the enemy. Living a simple, minimalist or quasi-minimalist life, devoid from consumerism can increase one's quality of life by an order of magnitude.

Godel_unicode 4y ago

Maybe for you, but that sounds like hell. We shouldn’t be monks whenever we’re off the clock, what’s the point?

saulpw 4y ago
To smell the ocean To kiss your lover To play with your dog To ponder the stars To reflect on what is the point This is the opposite of hell.
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- Godel_unicode 4y ago
  Maybe for you.
  - saulpw 4y ago
    For me and all the sages from antiquity to present day and everyone I know who has been truly happy. If these things seem like hell to you, you might want to consider why..
    - Godel_unicode 4y ago
      That is such a hilarious oversimplification and overstatement of the “sages from antiquity” that I can only respond that you should go and actually read some of them. The balance and give and take will be surprising and a good use of your time. Life is about doing things, if all you do is think about things you’re broken.
      - saulpw 4y ago
        If you're up for it, let's have a face-to-face videochat and talk about it! Email is in my bio.
        Godel_unicode 4y ago
        I’m not really looking for clients at the moment, and that’s also something you should try to tackle in person. That said, I don’t think you need my help, just try doing things. It might be uncomfortable at first but you’ll get there.

marcosdumay 4y ago

Minimalist is not the opposite of complexity. Really, people working on software should be deeply aware of that. You can have both or neither. And if you go radically optimizing for one, you will certainly get the unwanted extreme of the other (because well, that's what "radical" means).

WallyFunk 4y ago
> Minimalist is not the opposite of complexity Simple living actually works. I've tried it. Complexity is not your friend. But that doesn't mean I avoid complexity at all costs. After all I'm typing this on a computer which is the most complex possession I have.

ChildOfChaos 4y ago

I agree that it is complexity that is the enemy. It's not all about being a minimalist though. The issue is in work, there are many things already decided by other people, you are just the cog in the machine making choices in your own lane, after work, in your own life, you are responsible for everything and you have to decide, those decisions are complex and energy draining and you have to make them constantly, your time is limited, so you can only choose to do a few things, but how do you know what is best and even worse you usually always don't estimate the time that is required at all.