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I used to use SuSE back in the day (around v10 or so), but the issue I had with it was the RPM package management. Several times it managed to get into an incon

I used to use SuSE back in the day (around v10 or so), but the issue I had with it was the RPM package management. Several times it managed to get into an inconsistent state on various servers without it obviously being due to my incompetence, so I ended up migrating everything to DEB based systems (Ubuntu was my choice) and have had far less problems since.

cogman10 4y ago
I had the same experience. Rustling RPMs was a nightmare back in the day. In fact, it's what moved me from some redhat (SUSE?) back in the day to mandrake linux.
- microtonal 4y ago
  But Mandrake Linux also used RPMs.
  - mpol 4y ago
    Mandrake and Mageia use urpmi. It's a tool similar to apt, yum and zypper. It has been in existence since 1999. It can be used to install packages and also to upgrade a complete system, it will take care of dependencies for you.
- smegsicle 4y ago
  > Rustling RPMs fyi the term is actually "rassling", unless referring to stealing rpms from other ranchers
  - cogman10 4y ago
    What I did with rpms definitely felt criminal.
  - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
    "Wrangling" is also acceptable
  - JasonFruit 4y ago
    That'll git ya a necktie party sure as shootin'.
ahepp 4y ago
Are RPMs structurally quite different from DEBs? Or was the problem that RPM tooling was buggy?
- petepete 4y ago
  Not really, rpm and dpkg are similar and both solid - and have been for years. Not sure but what instability the parent post is referring to but SuSE V10 came out in 2006 - I suspect the problems have been ironed out.
  - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
    Quite possibly, but I've also had some issues with the various kernel versions (e.g. "unbreakable") in Oracle Linux v7. I've had the occasional issue with broken dependencies with dpkg, but they've always seemed much easier to resolve and generally involved just uninstalling the broken package.

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I used to use SuSE back in the day (around v10 or so), but the issue I had with it was the RPM package management. Several times it managed to get into an incon

by ndsipa_pomu 4y ago

cogman10 4y ago
I had the same experience. Rustling RPMs was a nightmare back in the day. In fact, it's what moved me from some redhat (SUSE?) back in the day to mandrake linux.
- microtonal 4y ago
  But Mandrake Linux also used RPMs.
  - mpol 4y ago
    Mandrake and Mageia use urpmi. It's a tool similar to apt, yum and zypper. It has been in existence since 1999. It can be used to install packages and also to upgrade a complete system, it will take care of dependencies for you.
- smegsicle 4y ago
  > Rustling RPMs fyi the term is actually "rassling", unless referring to stealing rpms from other ranchers
  - cogman10 4y ago
    What I did with rpms definitely felt criminal.
  - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
    "Wrangling" is also acceptable
  - JasonFruit 4y ago
    That'll git ya a necktie party sure as shootin'.
ahepp 4y ago
Are RPMs structurally quite different from DEBs? Or was the problem that RPM tooling was buggy?
- petepete 4y ago
  Not really, rpm and dpkg are similar and both solid - and have been for years. Not sure but what instability the parent post is referring to but SuSE V10 came out in 2006 - I suspect the problems have been ironed out.
  - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
    Quite possibly, but I've also had some issues with the various kernel versions (e.g. "unbreakable") in Oracle Linux v7. I've had the occasional issue with broken dependencies with dpkg, but they've always seemed much easier to resolve and generally involved just uninstalling the broken package.