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There's already some nasal sprays around that supposedly protect against Covid-19 in a similar way. However many places online just echo the copy from the manuf

There's already some nasal sprays around that supposedly protect against Covid-19 in a similar way. However many places online just echo the copy from the manufacturers about the efficiency. Has anyone tried those sprays and can share their experience?

seattle_spring 4y ago
Which sprays specifically?
jedberg 4y ago
If you're talking about the nitric oxide spray, my friend used it at a conference and got COVID anyway, so where n=1, it didn't work. But then again, almost all of us got COVID. I was masked the whole time, he used the spray, others took no preventative measures, and it didn't seem to matter much.
- devmor 4y ago
  Your anecdote and other similar stories I've heard seem to lend credence to one of the biggest factors for covid spread being circulated air systems. It's one of the biggest reasons I don't want to return to working in an office any time soon.
  - anonymous_sorry 4y ago
    I don't think we need to resort to anecdotes to conclude this. I think it was some time during the first wave that scientists began to communicate that indoor and enclosed spaces were far more risky than outdoor and well ventilated places.
    - devmor 4y ago
      Oh sure, but since a good half of the US doesn't believe in science I think it's nice to point out that people's personal experience corroborates it.
      - arcanemachiner 4y ago
        Science isn't a religion and isn't something people should "believe in". As to the lack of critical thinking skills on display over the past few years, now that's something I can believe is a problem.
  - forgetfreeman 4y ago
    You misspelled "superfluous groups of people in enclosed spaces", which is why we had a pandemic in the first place. Some folks just can't be satisfied with a warning and have to stick the fork in the outlet for themselves.
- bboygravity 4y ago
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  - hackernewds 4y ago
    Depends how you define "getting COVID". To the general population, on a practical level getting COVID = getting sick themselves. You get invaded by gastroenteritis bugs on a daily basis, but you only practically "get" gastroenteritis when it leads to diarrhea.
  - willcipriano 4y ago
    The president said that if you get the vaccine you won't get the virus: "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." Early on they would kick you off social media for saying otherwise. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-governm...
    - robertoandred 4y ago
      Initial efficacy was ~95% against infection.
      - hammock 4y ago
        A close examination of Pfizer trial results has called this figure into question. See thread https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1633937931319787520?s=20 https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1633937931319787520?s=...
        themitigating 4y ago
        Did the president know that when he made the statement? Why is it that Faccui, the CDC, and the WHO are so hated but I haven't heard for an investigation into Pfizer.
        4y ago
- hackernewds 4y ago
  Very poor anecdata, but does a lot of data worth of damage. What is the point of sharing this?
  - deleted 4y ago
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anonymous_sorry 4y ago
Individual experiences volunteered online are a very low value signal when assessing the efficacy of a medicine. This is why homeopathy exists. I'm not blindly trusting of corporations, but the manufacturer's claims are likely to be a better guide than anecdotes, at least in a country with reasonable regulation of medicines and medical claims.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  > the manufacturer's claims are likely to be a better guide than anecdotes not really. they're both equally poor. even if the manufacturer has clinical trials, they often need to be treated with skepticism.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    (Independent clinical trials are much better--the ones that the manufacturer uses to get approval often have undisclosed biases and the drug or whatever is often found to subsequently not be quite the wonder drug the first trials suggest)
    - anonymous_sorry 4y ago
      I don't disagree. But probably still better than a few "it worked for me!" comments on the internet.
op00to 4y ago
I use an iota-carrageenan nasal spray that has clinical evidence showing it's effective at reducing the duration of common cold, as well as some protection from COVID. Obviously, the COVID research is a bit flimsier. It's also cheap, and carrageenan is pretty inert. I use it any time I'm around big groups of people for more than a few minutes. [1] common cold: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880062/#:~:text=Therefore%2C%20all%204%20clinical%20trials,absorbed%20from%20the%20nasal%20mucosa https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880062/#:~:tex.... [2] covid: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493111/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493111/
- azinman2 4y ago
  Which product do you use?
  - RankingMember 4y ago
    Hopefully he responds, but I looked myself and this is what I found: https://www.amazon.com/BETADINE-Defence-eliminates-viruses-Improved/dp/B07MKVLYD9 https://www.amazon.com/BETADINE-Defence-eliminates-viruses-I...
jesusofnazarath 4y ago
I found the Betadyne mouth/nasal wash as prescibed by Peter Mccullough to be effective when i had omicron.
- HeavyFeather 4y ago
  Effective at what? This discussion is about preventing COVID.
hammock 4y ago
As Forbes says, “You must do ‘do your own research’ when it comes to science.” The pandemic is real, and we need to trust the experts here
xracy 4y ago
I don't know why you think this random sampling of internet comments would be any more valuable than the information from the manufacturer? (i.e. All of it is equally bad/biased "data")

seattle_spring 4y ago

Which sprays specifically?

jedberg 4y ago

If you're talking about the nitric oxide spray, my friend used it at a conference and got COVID anyway, so where n=1, it didn't work. But then again, almost all of us got COVID. I was masked the whole time, he used the spray, others took no preventative measures, and it didn't seem to matter much.

devmor 4y ago
Your anecdote and other similar stories I've heard seem to lend credence to one of the biggest factors for covid spread being circulated air systems. It's one of the biggest reasons I don't want to return to working in an office any time soon.
- anonymous_sorry 4y ago
  I don't think we need to resort to anecdotes to conclude this. I think it was some time during the first wave that scientists began to communicate that indoor and enclosed spaces were far more risky than outdoor and well ventilated places.
  - devmor 4y ago
    Oh sure, but since a good half of the US doesn't believe in science I think it's nice to point out that people's personal experience corroborates it.
    - arcanemachiner 4y ago
      Science isn't a religion and isn't something people should "believe in". As to the lack of critical thinking skills on display over the past few years, now that's something I can believe is a problem.
- forgetfreeman 4y ago
  You misspelled "superfluous groups of people in enclosed spaces", which is why we had a pandemic in the first place. Some folks just can't be satisfied with a warning and have to stick the fork in the outlet for themselves.
bboygravity 4y ago
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- hackernewds 4y ago
  Depends how you define "getting COVID". To the general population, on a practical level getting COVID = getting sick themselves. You get invaded by gastroenteritis bugs on a daily basis, but you only practically "get" gastroenteritis when it leads to diarrhea.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  The president said that if you get the vaccine you won't get the virus: "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." Early on they would kick you off social media for saying otherwise. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-governm...
  - robertoandred 4y ago
    Initial efficacy was ~95% against infection.
    - hammock 4y ago
      A close examination of Pfizer trial results has called this figure into question. See thread https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1633937931319787520?s=20 https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1633937931319787520?s=...
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Did the president know that when he made the statement? Why is it that Faccui, the CDC, and the WHO are so hated but I haven't heard for an investigation into Pfizer.
        4y ago
hackernewds 4y ago
Very poor anecdata, but does a lot of data worth of damage. What is the point of sharing this?
- deleted 4y ago
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anonymous_sorry 4y ago

Individual experiences volunteered online are a very low value signal when assessing the efficacy of a medicine. This is why homeopathy exists. I'm not blindly trusting of corporations, but the manufacturer's claims are likely to be a better guide than anecdotes, at least in a country with reasonable regulation of medicines and medical claims.

lamontcg 4y ago
> the manufacturer's claims are likely to be a better guide than anecdotes not really. they're both equally poor. even if the manufacturer has clinical trials, they often need to be treated with skepticism.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  (Independent clinical trials are much better--the ones that the manufacturer uses to get approval often have undisclosed biases and the drug or whatever is often found to subsequently not be quite the wonder drug the first trials suggest)
  - anonymous_sorry 4y ago
    I don't disagree. But probably still better than a few "it worked for me!" comments on the internet.

op00to 4y ago

I use an iota-carrageenan nasal spray that has clinical evidence showing it's effective at reducing the duration of common cold, as well as some protection from COVID. Obviously, the COVID research is a bit flimsier. It's also cheap, and carrageenan is pretty inert. I use it any time I'm around big groups of people for more than a few minutes. [1] common cold: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880062/#:~:text=Therefore%2C%20all%204%20clinical%20trials,absorbed%20from%20the%20nasal%20mucosa https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880062/#:~:tex.... [2] covid: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493111/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493111/

azinman2 4y ago
Which product do you use?
- RankingMember 4y ago
  Hopefully he responds, but I looked myself and this is what I found: https://www.amazon.com/BETADINE-Defence-eliminates-viruses-Improved/dp/B07MKVLYD9 https://www.amazon.com/BETADINE-Defence-eliminates-viruses-I...

jesusofnazarath 4y ago

I found the Betadyne mouth/nasal wash as prescibed by Peter Mccullough to be effective when i had omicron.

HeavyFeather 4y ago
Effective at what? This discussion is about preventing COVID.

hammock 4y ago

As Forbes says, “You must do ‘do your own research’ when it comes to science.” The pandemic is real, and we need to trust the experts here

xracy 4y ago

I don't know why you think this random sampling of internet comments would be any more valuable than the information from the manufacturer? (i.e. All of it is equally bad/biased "data")