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Horrible, but, completely unrelated question. How much poppy seed would I need to eat to get high?

srean 4y ago
You will probably die trying if you go that route. The 'high' chemicals are in the fleshy, sappy part of the fruit. Some traces may remain on the seed.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  Ehhhhh, not always: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/poppy-seeds-not-meant-for-food-chain-behind-australian-illnesses/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/poppy-seeds-not-meant...
  - srean 4y ago
    I am not sure whether you were agreeing with me or refuting, but the article you linked vindicates my stand -- you may die trying and not get a hit.
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      This time it was a high-thébaine batch, but no reason it couldn’t have been a high-morphine batch. The thébaine is found in the pod the same way as morphine is, not the seed itself. But if the seeds aren’t washed enough and the variety isn’t a low alkaloid one… Not sure how much the manufacturers test. Obviously one wasn’t testing for thébaine.
      - srean 4y ago
        That sounds plausible indeed.
- CapstanRoller 4y ago
  The chemicals are on the seeds as well, sometimes to a significant degree, unless they're processed before sale. You're right about the danger of trying it.
mannschott 4y ago
I've had a lot of Mohnstrudel (Poppy Seed Strudel) in Austria [1]. You won't get high; you'll just get diabetes. ;-) https://kochen.kerpe.at/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Mohnstrudel1.jpg https://kochen.kerpe.at/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Mohnstrud...
anonymouskimmer 4y ago
I think you misspelled "poppy". It depends on what strain, and whether they've been cooked into a bagel or are uncooked: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2020.00737/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2020.0073... > In this work, it was found that in harvested poppy seeds, and thermally processed poppy seeds (with and without a food matrix), if used in normal levels would not exceed the recommended acute reference dose. It was also shown that the levels of all alkaloids reduce when thermally processed, in comparison with harvested, untreated seeds. But basically a lot. Which is why poppies are processed for heroin. Not eaten straight.
CapstanRoller 4y ago
I won't answer the question directly, but I will say that it is possible and that you shouldn't try: many people have died while doing this, because the seeds carry an unknown and highly variable amount of poppy latex. One may use some amount and feel nothing, but later use the same amount with a different batch of seeds and rapidly OD (usually fatal for opioid naive people). This is especially a problem due to the potentially long delay of come-up, which is why many folks die after redosing (believing that the first dose did nothing or wasn't sufficient). Lastly, baked goods containing poppy seeds do not pose any danger, as high heat destroys basically all the alkaloids.
coffeebeqn 4y ago
Making opium is extremely easy. Basically you grow legal poppy flowers and cut a small incision in the seed pod and collect the sap. Then you dry it and you’re ready to start your own den

You will probably die trying if you go that route. The 'high' chemicals are in the fleshy, sappy part of the fruit. Some traces may remain on the seed.

Scoundreller 4y ago
Ehhhhh, not always: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/poppy-seeds-not-meant-for-food-chain-behind-australian-illnesses/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/poppy-seeds-not-meant...
- srean 4y ago
  I am not sure whether you were agreeing with me or refuting, but the article you linked vindicates my stand -- you may die trying and not get a hit.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    This time it was a high-thébaine batch, but no reason it couldn’t have been a high-morphine batch. The thébaine is found in the pod the same way as morphine is, not the seed itself. But if the seeds aren’t washed enough and the variety isn’t a low alkaloid one… Not sure how much the manufacturers test. Obviously one wasn’t testing for thébaine.
    - srean 4y ago
      That sounds plausible indeed.
CapstanRoller 4y ago
The chemicals are on the seeds as well, sometimes to a significant degree, unless they're processed before sale. You're right about the danger of trying it.

mannschott 4y ago

I've had a lot of Mohnstrudel (Poppy Seed Strudel) in Austria [1]. You won't get high; you'll just get diabetes. ;-) https://kochen.kerpe.at/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Mohnstrudel1.jpg https://kochen.kerpe.at/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Mohnstrud...

anonymouskimmer 4y ago

I think you misspelled "poppy". It depends on what strain, and whether they've been cooked into a bagel or are uncooked: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2020.00737/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2020.0073... > In this work, it was found that in harvested poppy seeds, and thermally processed poppy seeds (with and without a food matrix), if used in normal levels would not exceed the recommended acute reference dose. It was also shown that the levels of all alkaloids reduce when thermally processed, in comparison with harvested, untreated seeds. But basically a lot. Which is why poppies are processed for heroin. Not eaten straight.

CapstanRoller 4y ago

I won't answer the question directly, but I will say that it is possible and that you shouldn't try: many people have died while doing this, because the seeds carry an unknown and highly variable amount of poppy latex. One may use some amount and feel nothing, but later use the same amount with a different batch of seeds and rapidly OD (usually fatal for opioid naive people). This is especially a problem due to the potentially long delay of come-up, which is why many folks die after redosing (believing that the first dose did nothing or wasn't sufficient). Lastly, baked goods containing poppy seeds do not pose any danger, as high heat destroys basically all the alkaloids.

coffeebeqn 4y ago

Making opium is extremely easy. Basically you grow legal poppy flowers and cut a small incision in the seed pod and collect the sap. Then you dry it and you’re ready to start your own den