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I'm guessing this is targeted at libgen, I imagine some of the big publishers put pressure on them.
by RobotToaster 4y ago
I'm guessing this is targeted at libgen, I imagine some of the big publishers put pressure on them.
- mhoad 4y ago[flagged]
- ornornor 4y agoWho is “they” in that context? Cloudflare? There was no CF or internet in the 30s, I don’t understand your comment.
- Traubenfuchs 4y agoMan. https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5yxxg/cloudflare-is-protecting-a-site-linked-to-a-neo-nazi-terror-group https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5yxxg/cloudflare-is-protect...
- ornornor 4y agoThanks. Wasn’t aware of this.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago[flagged]
- tedivm 4y agoSeveral actually. I've posted this before, but I've had issues with their security people essentially stalking me after I made some negative comments here awhile ago. It seems most of those people have been fired or have resigned after all the bad press, but for awhile their security team was pretty far right.
- wahnfrieden 4y agoCan you elaborate?
- nibbleshifter 4y agoWho? I used to know a fair number of CF employees a while back. Most were fairly liberal/left leaning, one was somewhat libertarian-right, but not what I'd describe as a "Nazi".
- wahnfrieden 4y agoThe one that posted “I’m a nazi” among other things while employed there. I'm not being vague, that's the direct quote you can google. They were GNAA president (taking over for weev, the dailystormer admin), there's your ID. weev also claimed he had another (different) sympathetic insider at cf supporting him with dailystormer or other activities, btw, but that's unverified
- nibbleshifter 4y agoWhich one is that, specifically? I dislike cloudflare myself, but if you are going to make an assertion about their employees, you should bring a source instead of vagueposting.
- arp242 4y ago- Cloudflare offers hosting to everyone, including content such as this: Cloudflare are the Nazi fascists of the internet! - Cloudflare makes decisions who to offer hosting to, refusing to offer hosting to Nazis and the like: Cloudflare are the Nazi fascists of the internet! No matter what they do, they can never win; someone is always going to complain loudly.
- shrimp_emoji 4y agoA common symptom of having too much power
- deadbeeves 4y agoOne thing they can certainly be criticized for is having no consistent criteria for deciding who or what to provide service to.
- arp242 4y agoWhat would that even look like? There are far too many variables and nuances to have a comprehensive set of written rules. That's why we have judges.
- deadbeeves 4y agoFor example, "we will serve anyone who will pay, as long as we don't break the law in doing so". That seems easy enough to do, I'd say. If you can't get a service provider to tell you in clear terms under what circumstances they may cut you off, they're not a provider you should rely on.
- arp242 4y agoThat would be situation one from the earlier comment, and would end with "Cloudflare are the Nazi fascists of the internet!" from some people. It's also what the Cloudflare policy is, AFAIK, barring a few notable extreme exceptions which can be counted on one hand – a miniscule portion of their user base. I think it's too strong to say "they're not a provider you should rely on".
- leoc 4y agoThey likely (IANAL) had a much firmer legal footing in those cases.
- leoc 4y agoAlso, I should add: I don't think Cloudflare is letting IPFS or the IPFS movement or whatever down, here. The protocol was deliberately designed not to force users to touch illegal or otherwise "hot" content against their knowledge or against their wills, and on the other side of that coin it doesn't provide them much to hide behind legally or otherwise if they do host it. That question is effectively out of scope for base IPFS, and Cloudflare isn't doing anything unexpected or especially treacherous in complying with copyright takedown requests.
- alwayslikethis 4y agoNazism is not illegal in the US. Copyright infringement is. Easier to stand up for your principles if government doesn't threaten you directly.
- mschuster91 4y agoWhat I don't get is why all the tech companies don't put their money where their mouth is - and do the same that MAFIAA, radical Christians, Big Oil, Big Ag, Big Tobacco etc are doing: massively donate to young, tech focused aspiring politicians' campaigns, donate to the Democratic Party (or progressive parties in other countries), and otherwise engage in barely legal bribery. We don't really need to wonder why we have octogenarians with zero clue how the Internet works in power (every Congressional investigation about anything tech is enough meme fodder for the rest of the year)... the tech industry might be absurdly large in financial terms, but it is a complete joke in political lobbying.
- Mountain_Skies 4y agoAm I misreading your comment or are you seriously stating that the tech industry doesn't lavish support on Democrats?
- mschuster91 4y agoOn the 2022 midterm campaigns, the only tech-focused donor to Democrats was Sam Bankman-Fried of all people [1]. [1] https://thehill.com/lobbying/3720141-here-are-the-biggest-donors-in-the-midterm-elections/ https://thehill.com/lobbying/3720141-here-are-the-biggest-do...
- tedivm 4y agoNot every tech worker is a billionaire, or even millionaire. I would say more of the tech workers donating are doing it in much smaller amount, but the aggregate is likely fairly high. That said most VCs aren't progressive, they're libertarian (until their bank crashes).
- yucky 4y agoAnd yet they tried to take down KiwiFarms for less.