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Wow, we have lost a true legend. As I get older, I marvel a bit at the giants I once shared time on the earth with. Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants
by acjohnson55 4y ago
Wow, we have lost a true legend. As I get older, I marvel a bit at the giants I once shared time on the earth with. Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants in the 21st century in the same way.
- madamelic 4y agoI think it is hard to see giants when they are just innovators. To everyone around them and especially themselves, they were just pushing the ball forward day-by-day; they weren't heroes or insanely prescient, they were just doing the next logical thing to do. It's only after they've climbed the mountain that you can appreciate what they did. That's probably the hardest thing about innovation. To everyone who wants to innovate, they only see the mountain. They have the grand idea of where they will end up, when the reality of innovation is just pushing the ball forward one step at a time. It's not heroism or being a genius necessarily, it's persistence and being able to think on the fly. I think "genius" knows where the general destination is but I feel like most aren't doing it for the destination, they are doing it because they feel it is a calling and what they must do.
- GalenErso 4y agoI sometimes make myself a mental list of famous people who are expected to die soon. The following people will all die in the next few years: Jimmy Carter (98), Henry Kissinger (99), Dick Cheney (82), Pope Francis (86), Paul McCartney (80), John Williams (91), William Shatner (92), and Ali Khamenei (83).
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoThere is a website for such predictions: https://deathlist.net/ https://deathlist.net/
- nly 4y agoWell, that's delightfully morbid.
- tcbawo 4y agoBuzz Aldrin (93), although he might outlive all of us
- bilekas 4y agoNot to diminish your list, but notably they're all non scientific, there's a push with Kissinger. (One could see economics as a science) Point being: they only serve the generation who survive them, Moore, will outlive us all, in fact and in legacy. Edit: What I said isn't true, music, movies and arts will outlive us. We have different lists.
- azinman2 4y agoTheir impacts go beyond their generation by having shifted the world in some way.
- WalterBright 4y ago> music, movies and arts will outlive us. Will they? Who watches old movies?
- vmladenov 4y agoI just watched Some Like It Hot (1959) a few weeks ago. Great comedy, looks phenomenal in 4K
- WalterBright 4y agoI watch old ones, too, but always by myself. Nobody else wants to. It's always "eww, black and white!" Often they're right. They'd be much more watchable with an AI that could sharpen the picture and colorize it.
- vmladenov 4y agoWatched it with the family! Was a hit Hard disagree on the colorization bit. I don’t see how color would improve some thing like Psycho or Citizen Kane
- WalterBright 4y agoNice!
- Scottn1 4y agoGene Hackman (93)
- ankit70 4y agoAlan Alda.
- dghughes 4y agoAnd Mike Farrell.
- lordnacho 4y agoAttenborough. That will be the end of our planet's conscience, symbolic of the era where we discovered how truly incredible a place we live in, and what we are doing to it.
- spinlock_ 4y agoWarren Buffett (92)
- jjeaff 4y agoAnd Charlie Munger (99) is still somehow doing press junkets.
- childintime 4y agoSadly Mick Jagger is on my list, his death would mark the end of an era.
- pjmorris 4y agoRelated: "I think youngsters need to start thinking about the kind of world they are going to leave for me and Keith Richards (79)." - Willie Nelson (89)
- ericmcer 4y agoEven in death Ringo will be in Paul McCartney's shadow haha. A huge one for me is Mel Brooks, it is pretty rare for a celebrity death to have an impact on me but that one will.
- TheGrassyKnoll 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Fosbury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Fosbury
- davnicwil 4y agoI think this is tautological - this is how it must always be, and I would guess has been the common view at any given point of time in history. You can only properly assess and appreciate the impact sufficient to assign 'legend' status to an individual or institution retroactively, decades hence from the actions that elevated them there.
- darknavi 4y agoReminds me of this silly quote from The Office (US) > I wish there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you actually left them. > - Andy Bernard
- flangola7 4y agoFortunately we have that opportunity today
- conroydave 4y agodo you mind elaborating?
- FrontierPsych 4y agoit's always the good ole days for someone. it's always 5pm somewhere for someone.
- davnicwil 4y ago"It's always the good ole days for someone" is a little phrase I'm going to try to remember and think of from time to time. Thank you for this :-)
- chrisco255 4y agoNot at all. Moore himself has been recognized and celebrated for decades. But many other such figures achieved 'legendary' status while they were very much alive and in their prime: Edison, Ford, Bell, Wright Bros, Disney, Carnegie, Einstein, Oppenheimer, etc. Moore himself was a member of an elite crew and one of Shockley's (the inventor of the transistor) "Traitorous Eight" which spun out from their former mentor to join Fairchild Semiconductor before all of them spun out from that enterprise to found their own companies and in the process create Silicon Valley proper.
- osigurdson 4y agoTry to become a giant yourself - why not?
- fnordpiglet 4y agoA giant typically means famous. There are many giants that we will never know the name of. For me, I’d rather die famous with my friends and family and have changed the world in my silent way. I’ve been fortunate enough to do it a few times already, and I hope I’ll get another chance before I die as most people never get the first chance. That’s I think a better goal - when a chance comes to change everything, jump into it head first. But don’t bother trying to be famous. It’s meaningless. Regardless, I bid Dr Moore a fond farewell. He lived to see the horizon of his law.
- quickthrower2 4y agoHis law was probably self fulfilling. In some ways more like an actual law than laws if nature
- dctoedt 4y ago> There are many giants that we will never know the name of. And sadly, there are millions living out their lives in poorer parts of the world who might have become giants, if only they'd had access to nutrition, good parenting, education, connections, etc.
- acjohnson55 4y agoI've thought about that a lot. Right now, I think it's just not what drives me. I'm motivated by novelty and certain types of experiences. Not really by years-long projects trying to break new ground. But my comment doesn't come out of a sense of desire to emulate. Just out of a sense that especially in the early-to-mid 20th century, we had these titanic characters: Einstein, Tesla, Von Neumann, The Beatles, and so forth. In a lot of ways, I think it comes down to these folks existing in the beginnings of the information age, and how many advances were unlocked by the increase in communication speed. That was probably a lot more groundbreaking than the digital revolution. For all the progress we've seen since I was born in the 80s, there's not a lot of things that have fundamentally changed in terms of human capability. Although, we may see in the next decade or two the same sort of paradigm shift.
- yieldcrv 4y agoI mean, not yet. Right now in tech, we are subject to 38 year olds careening through life, dying in their mid 50s Whatever legacy and mature rebranding they attempt wont be apparent until 2070
- jseliger 4y agoMoore lived long enough to see Intel financialized, and its engineering crown taken by its rivals. Only the paranoid survive, one of his colleagues once said, and I guess Intel stopped being sufficiently paranoid.
- bpye 4y agoIntel is not dead, wounded perhaps. I would still be very surprised to see them disappear.
- ren_engineer 4y agothey'll survive due to geopolitics if nothing else, the US government has no choice but to make sure they stay viable due to the potential issues in Taiwan
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- imhoguy 4y agoThis, anything happening to Taiwan will shaken IT and electronics industry severely. We are ahead of "chip-covid" event in my opinion as IT wasn't enough shaken by SARS-Cov2 or Ukraine, I hope I am wrong. Intel stock price would sky rocket then.
- melling 4y agoThat “colleague” was Andy Grove, also a rather impressive person. https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/664484-only-the-paranoid-survive https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/664484-only-the-parano... He got Parkinson’s and died 7 years ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11333402 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11333402
- behnamoh 4y ago> Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants in the 21st century in the same way. Somehow it feels like we'll never have legends in an age when GPT-4/5/... are accessible to everyone.
- JamesAdir 4y agoIt takes time to understand who is the true giant. Robert Metcalfe just received the ACM Turing award last week and his contributions where from the 70's. It's the same with Nobel laureates, it takes year for your work to be recognized.
- chrisco255 4y agoNot really, no. He may have just recently received an award (he's received many awards) but Metcalfe has been recognized for his achievements for decades. He got the ACM Grace Hopper award in 1980: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Murray_Hopper_Award https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Murray_Hopper_Award
- Aperocky 4y agoIn Antarctic exploration, there was a time called Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroic_Age_of_Antarctic_Exploration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroic_Age_of_Antarctic_Explor... People attempted to use dog sleds to traverse up the antarctic plateau, which is nearly the same altitude as Tibet, and reach the pole. Many died in the process, their names are remembered (though slid out of public discourse as its over a century ago). In our industry fortunately people don't die, but trailblazer had to do a similar thing - they used the proverbial dog sleds to build a camp in the middle of antarctic plateau.