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I will die on that hill that an olive oil base is so superior that tomatoes do not belong on pizza. Especially these days where so many places "tomato" sauce is

by TylerE 4y ago

I will die on that hill that an olive oil base is so superior that tomatoes do not belong on pizza. Especially these days where so many places "tomato" sauce is basically corn syrup and food coloring.

smcl 4y ago
I am curious about it and I'm quite sure that it is great but on that hill you are fighting an ... err ... uphill battle. To flip a contemporary saying around "pizza is like sex, even if it's bad it's still good" :D
- drewcoo 4y ago
  We all know "never get involved in a land war in Asia," but uphill battles against Italy are a problem, too. On pizza and sex . . . I'm not even going there. But try some oil.
  - smcl 4y ago
    Fair :)
switch007 4y ago
Why not both! Olive and tomatoes (and salt) are a match made in heaven
yamtaddle 4y ago
Too runny. Pizzas I use olive oil on always end up messy as hell. Tomato politely stays put under the cheese, any exposed sauce cooks and dries so it's not runny, and oils and greases from other sources tend to sit on top of it rather than displacing it and turning into a kind of icky liquid-fat blend. I still use it for certain pies, but would absolutely not rate it higher than tomato sauce for this purpose, overall.
nonethewiser 4y ago
Where have you found this type of pizza?
- TylerE 4y ago
  Most decent places will be able to do it. Somestime they call it something different, like "white sauce" (although that can mean something else, so ask first) But, like, to give a national chain, you can get oil instead of sauce on any pizza at Mellow Mushroom.
crazygringo 4y ago
... where are you buying your tomato sauce??? Standard basic common brands like Ragu and Prego have none of those. Tomatoes as the first ingredient, zero added sugar/syrup or food coloring. I've never even heard of corn syrup or food coloring in tomato sauce. Do you have a source for that? Because I can't even see how it would make sense -- large cans of tomato purée are cheap enough already.
pjc50 4y ago
Italian tomatoes _in Italy_ taste so much better it's like a different food. Even buying canned San Marzano isn't quite the same.
Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
Well, get decent tomatoes and make your own sauce. Good quality tomato is just incredibile. Here in Vancouver, Via tevere makes an shockingly good tomato sauce, to the point that I get only margherita as pizza, because the flavor is so intense. That being said, neither of them is better than the other: provola, mushrooms and truffle on a white base will blow your mind. It's just that here in north america, they have so little choice in toppings, everything is pepperoni, something spicy, chicken everywhere. Damn! I'm an Italian who now lives in Canada
- firstlink 4y ago
  Chicken does not belong on pizza.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
    You get arrested if you put it on pasta too.
    - mcv 4y ago
      What about pineapple? Doesn't Pizza Hawaii now exist long enough to count as traditional?
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
        We don't put pineapple on pizzs either.. We do put nutella and apples, or nutella and strawberries on it, but it would be on "pizza bianca" (white pizza), which is not something you have in north America. It's similar to bread.

by TylerE 4y ago

smcl 4y ago

I am curious about it and I'm quite sure that it is great but on that hill you are fighting an ... err ... uphill battle. To flip a contemporary saying around "pizza is like sex, even if it's bad it's still good" :D

drewcoo 4y ago
We all know "never get involved in a land war in Asia," but uphill battles against Italy are a problem, too. On pizza and sex . . . I'm not even going there. But try some oil.
- smcl 4y ago
  Fair :)

switch007 4y ago

Why not both! Olive and tomatoes (and salt) are a match made in heaven

yamtaddle 4y ago

Too runny. Pizzas I use olive oil on always end up messy as hell. Tomato politely stays put under the cheese, any exposed sauce cooks and dries so it's not runny, and oils and greases from other sources tend to sit on top of it rather than displacing it and turning into a kind of icky liquid-fat blend. I still use it for certain pies, but would absolutely not rate it higher than tomato sauce for this purpose, overall.

nonethewiser 4y ago

Where have you found this type of pizza?

TylerE 4y ago
Most decent places will be able to do it. Somestime they call it something different, like "white sauce" (although that can mean something else, so ask first) But, like, to give a national chain, you can get oil instead of sauce on any pizza at Mellow Mushroom.

crazygringo 4y ago

... where are you buying your tomato sauce??? Standard basic common brands like Ragu and Prego have none of those. Tomatoes as the first ingredient, zero added sugar/syrup or food coloring. I've never even heard of corn syrup or food coloring in tomato sauce. Do you have a source for that? Because I can't even see how it would make sense -- large cans of tomato purée are cheap enough already.

pjc50 4y ago

Italian tomatoes _in Italy_ taste so much better it's like a different food. Even buying canned San Marzano isn't quite the same.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago

Well, get decent tomatoes and make your own sauce. Good quality tomato is just incredibile. Here in Vancouver, Via tevere makes an shockingly good tomato sauce, to the point that I get only margherita as pizza, because the flavor is so intense. That being said, neither of them is better than the other: provola, mushrooms and truffle on a white base will blow your mind. It's just that here in north america, they have so little choice in toppings, everything is pepperoni, something spicy, chicken everywhere. Damn! I'm an Italian who now lives in Canada

firstlink 4y ago
Chicken does not belong on pizza.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
  You get arrested if you put it on pasta too.
  - mcv 4y ago
    What about pineapple? Doesn't Pizza Hawaii now exist long enough to count as traditional?
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
      We don't put pineapple on pizzs either.. We do put nutella and apples, or nutella and strawberries on it, but it would be on "pizza bianca" (white pizza), which is not something you have in north America. It's similar to bread.