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Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date informat
by 93po 4y ago
Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge.
As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me and compile the results across several blog spam sites.
I am literally giving notice and quitting my job in a couple weeks, and it's a mixture of both being sick of it but also because I really need to focus my career on what's happening in this field. I feel like everything I'm doing now (product management for software) is about to be nearly worthless in 5 years. Largely in part because I know there will be a Github Copilot integration of some sort, and software development as we know it for consumer web and mobile apps is going to massively change.
I'm excited and scared and frankly just blown away.
- fandorin 4y agoI was considering doing the same (giving notice) and I'm doing similar things as you (product mgmt). What's your plan "to focus your career on what's happening in this field"?
- CrackpotGonzo 4y agoAs a previous startup founder, now marketer, i’m also going in all in on reinventing myself. Can we start a group to support each other through this new phase?
- teetertater 4y agoI also quit my job three months ago for the same reason and would gladly join the group!
- 93po 4y agoMade a subreddit here that I'll post in if you want to join: https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/
- fandorin 4y agogreat stuff! I’m joining, let’s do it
- krainboltgreene 4y agoYou guys need to take your medication.
- seer 4y agoHah I just quit my job a few days ago, for other reasons - mostly wanted to have a sabbatical, but looking at what ML does and its future, its clear to me I need to at least understand how all of those pieces work so I can employ the libs / apis if not build them myself. This feels kinda like the blockchain rush ~5 years back, but with actual substantial potential rather than the obvious niche application of that tech. Started watching the videos from Adrej - https://karpathy.ai/zero-to-hero.html https://karpathy.ai/zero-to-hero.html quite impressed so far.
- hoot 4y agoWhere the hell do we even go from here? The logical step seems to be to start studying AI now but even Sam Altman has said that he’s thinking that ML engineers will be the first to get automated. Can’t find source but I think it was one of his interviews on YouTube before chatgpt came out.
- 93po 4y agoIn terms of job security, the trades is the first obvious answer that comes to mind for me. It will be a while yet until we have robots that replace plumbing and electrical wiring in your building.
- mindwok 4y agoI’ve landed in the same place. Feels like the more your job interacts with people or the physical world, the safer you are. Everything else is going to undergo a massive paradigm shift.
- bluecrab 4y agoThey've already killed nlp researchers in one release. Lol.
- heliophobicdude 4y agoHey 93po, can you please temporarily add your contact details in your bio, I would love to write you and regularly check in on your career pivot! I'm also interested as well!
- 93po 4y agoI appreciate the interest. However I don't really want my spicy and off the cuff commenting on this account to be tied to my real identity, because although my believes are genuine, they are often ones I wouldn't express in person because they're unpopular and ostracizing. That said, I'll post in this new subreddit anonymously if you want to join and follow: https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/
- arcadeparade 4y agoIt's extraordinary, openai could probably licence this to Google right now and ask for 25% equity in return
- sebzim4500 4y agoThere is absolutely no way that Google would go for that.
- 93po 4y agoCompletely agreed. Google is insanely rigid from what I've heard recently.
- pixl97 4y agoGoogle is busy riding the Kodak roller coaster off a cliff. Maybe they'll save themselves, but they're not doing a good job so far.
- Karrot_Kream 4y agoHah you made my day, this is such an apt analogy.
- willmeyers 4y agoIt's exciting and cool, but don't quit your job based on an emotional decision I'm just skeptical on how OpenAI fixes the blog spam issue you mentioned. Im sure someone has already started doing the math on how to game these systems and ensure that when you ask ChatGPT for recipe recs, it's going to spout the same spam (maybe worded a bit differently) and we'll soon all get tired of it again. Everything's changing, but everything's also getting more complicated. Humans still need apply.
- 93po 4y agoDefinitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find one with meaningful information, you don't have to close a thousand modals for newsletters and cookie consent and log-in prompts.
- finikytou 4y agoyeah its gonna do what google became. giving you the most consensual or even sponsored recipe. in some ways that's also the end of mankind as it was in all its genius and variations. and that aligns very well with the conspiracy theory that the 1% want the middle class to disappear into a consumer class of average IQ. because the jobs that will disappear first wont be the bluecollar ones. chatgpt will lower the global IQ of mankind in ways that tiktok could not even dream.
- VoodooJuJu 4y agoThis is absolutely an emotionally impulsive decision. I implore you to reconsider. If you've always wondered about and scoffed at how people fall for things like Nigerian Prince scams and cryptocurrency HELOC bets, this is it, what you're experiencing right now, this intense FOMO, it's the same thing that fools cool wine aunts into giving their savings to Nigerian princes. Tread lightly. Stay frosty.
- arrenv 4y agoAlso a product manager at the moment, previously ran an agency for 10 years, wondering what my next step will be.
- 93po 4y agoFeel free to join here: https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/
- toomuchtodo 4y agoPlease consider a Discord. I too am leaving my current industry to focus on this tech also. Edit: Fair!
- 93po 4y agoI'm not a huge discord fan because the conversations are too ephemeral and hard to track and tend to fill with clutter and fluff.
- freediver 4y ago> OpenAI will do this for me and compile the results across several blog spam sites. Using Bing to search for them. That will remain its weak spot.
- 93po 4y agoFrankly Google's search is awful to the point of useless these days too. Unless I'm specifically looking for something on an official website it's only listicles and blog spam that don't answer my question. And 90% of my searches are "site:reddit.com" now too
- s3p 4y agoThe Bing search engine is not bad. They even reconstructed the recommendation engine using their Prometheus model to return more content and less spam. For the first time in over a decade I have changed my phone's default search engine. It is by no means bad.
- Thorentis 4y ago> product management for software) is about to be nearly worthless in 5 years Isn't that one of the few fields in software that should be safe from AI? AI cannot explain to engineers what users want, manage people issues, or negotiate.
- dougmwne 4y agoIt seems pretty awesome at those tasks. Point it at a meeting transcript and have it create user stories. I Don think GPT-4 replaces a person in any professional role I can think of, but it seems all people will find a range of tasks can be automated.
- 93po 4y agoI would backtrack this slightly. If I were to be more clear, I'd say that: 1. The type of software projects I manage are about to be worthless 2. Managing software development (in a project manager way) the way it happens at my employer is also soon going to be a worthless skill (or at least, massively lowered in demand) I agree that the human understanding component in translating business needs to software will be one of the longer lived job functions.
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- bluecrab 4y agoDon't quit yet.
- motoxpro 4y agoCheck out Bing Chat/Search. It's been doing this for "weeks" now. Also, GPT "search" is too slow for me right now. I could have had an answer on traditional search by the time the model outputs anything.
- ShamelessC 4y ago> Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Sorry what? The base endpoint for these will allow you to do basically everything that OpenAI does with "plugins". Like...what? What is everyone freaking out over? Every one of these plugins has been possible since well before they announced this. It's text in, text out. You can call any other api you want in to supplement that process. Am I missing something? Please don't quit your job over this.
- arbuge 4y agoRegular non-technical folks are very comfortable controlling a chatbot.They are not comfortable building APIs to supplement it.
- 93po 4y agoI dismissed plugins a little too strongly. And as the other person pointed out, it's less about the ability to integrate platforms together, and more about ChatGPT interacting with them directly after a single sentence of prompting.
- lupire 4y agoHow sad is this if true, that Google's fortunes are built on spamming people with bullshit, and people are finding a more efficient way to collect bullshit.
- timeon 4y ago> No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam Advantage that basic Google search still has: - you can just open the page - write the query - scroll past the spam. ChatGpt workflow is: - register - confirm your mail - and then it asks for phone number...
- graeme 4y ago>No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me and compile the results across several blog spam sites. Why, exactly, will publisher let openai crawl their sites, extract all value, paraphrase their content, with no benefit to the publisher? Publishers let googlebot crawl their sites because they get a benefit. It's easy enough to block bots if they instead deliver crawl costs and steal the content. And why do you expect no gaming of the ChatGPT algo as people do with the google algo. The whole "write a story on a recipe site thing" is both to game the algo and for copyright reasons.