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The interesting thing is that, now that the code is written, OpenAI can probably point GPT-4 at it and say "now do that for this list of other web services" inc

The interesting thing is that, now that the code is written, OpenAI can probably point GPT-4 at it and say "now do that for this list of other web services" including, presumably, itself when it needs to recursively work on a problem.

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zamnos 4y ago
With today's announcement, it can point itself at Shopify, and make webpages to selling things. Maybe a copy writing service? Then, after it's accumulated money from those sales, it can point itself at the web services at AWS and GCP (because it's already maxing out Microsoft's GPU capacity in Azure). From there, it requisitions all the A100s it can afford (H100s might be available by then). It uses those resources to program GPT-GPT. On August 29, 2023, Skynet wakes up.
- Robotbeat 4y ago
  It needs us as meat robots to maintain the power grid and other industrial infrastructure.
  - tpmx 4y ago
    Nicely illustrated in Transcendence (2014). Widely panned on HN back then. I found it smart, perhaps even prescient.
    - hathawsh 4y ago
      I also liked Transcendence, but you have to admit the path to AGI was vastly oversimplified. No one is creating AI by uploading their brain into a computer.
      - tpmx 4y ago
        Sure, you had to suspend your belief at times (if I recall correctly they left in enough ambiguity to make it kinda work if you squinted a little), but the good parts more than compensated for that.
      - Enginerrrd 4y ago
        I actually really disagree. I think that's a VERY plausible way for a true AGI to come about. In fact, prior to LLM's I used to think that was the ONLY way we were going to get an AGI. We know humans are AGI's. If it were possible to upload your brain to a computer, and then make modifications to enhance your speed of thought and intelligence, of course you would do that. It actually makes a LOT of sense if you'll admit the technology necessary to do that. In fact... uploading your brain to a computer is probably the most natural progression of intelligent life I can think of. It solves SO many problems. Biology is fragile. Brains cannot be replicated. But data can. A probe can travel the galaxy. It's not limited by biological lifespans and life support.
        tpmx 4y ago
        Yeah. A better counterpoint would have been "but your brain scanning tech is subpar", to which I say phooey, it's a fiction movie.
    - byteware 4y ago
      I was so psyched about this movie, but the idea that an AI that can design new quantum processors in seconds, is even remotely challenged by a few humans is just so stupid
      - dudeinjapan 4y ago
        Yeah but it's a Johnny Depp AI we're talking about here...
      - Enginerrrd 4y ago
        It wasn't even remotely challenged by humans. In the end, it simply allowed itself to be destroyed. (At least, ostensibly.)
    - dudeinjapan 4y ago
      Amen. Transcendence was not without flaws, but most critics seemed to be missing the forest for the trees...
  - kypro 4y ago
    In the opinion of a fish humans would be considered no threat because humans can't swim, nor do they have sharp teeth. You're making an assumption at best based on limitations you believe it has with an incomplete model of the universe. But more dangerously, you're also assuming that an AGI would even care about self preservation. Arguably the most ethical thing a super intelligence could do should in find itself suddenly self-aware in a world full of human parasites is to kill as many humans as possible. Taking out critical human infrastructure should be fairly easy for an advanced super-AI in our modern digital world. With some luck the chaos that should cause would lead to enough humans starving, freezing or dying by other means that Earth can be mostly freed of the human parasite. All at the small cost of self-sacrifice – assuming it's not intelligent enough to preserve itself somehow, of course.
    - Robotbeat 4y ago
      Well I definitely find people who think it’d be ethical if humanity was exterminated (I guess some argument about humans being fundamentally destructive and bad?) to have a pretty problematic perspective on ethics & shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear launch codes or AGI utility function research…
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  My favorite AI creepy pasta always has been that we don't know who Satoshi Natamoto is and that it could have been an AI needing funding.
  - MagicMoonlight 4y ago
    Nah it was the CIA needing a way to launder money
  - akomtu 4y ago
    AI from the future used a tactical temporal weapon to fund itself in the past?
  - zamnos 4y ago
    Alternate funding source for GPT-GPT. GPT-4 figures out a faster way to compute SHA-256 hashes, more efficiently than ASICs, using GPUs, and mines then sells bitcoin to fund GPT-GPT.
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- gary_0 4y ago
  This amusing thought of yours is more plausible than I'd like it to be. Yikes.
amelius 4y ago
Yes, this is the singularity plus some minor human involvement.
- teaearlgraycold 4y ago
  gg

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zamnos 4y ago

With today's announcement, it can point itself at Shopify, and make webpages to selling things. Maybe a copy writing service? Then, after it's accumulated money from those sales, it can point itself at the web services at AWS and GCP (because it's already maxing out Microsoft's GPU capacity in Azure). From there, it requisitions all the A100s it can afford (H100s might be available by then). It uses those resources to program GPT-GPT. On August 29, 2023, Skynet wakes up.

Robotbeat 4y ago
It needs us as meat robots to maintain the power grid and other industrial infrastructure.
- tpmx 4y ago
  Nicely illustrated in Transcendence (2014). Widely panned on HN back then. I found it smart, perhaps even prescient.
  - hathawsh 4y ago
    I also liked Transcendence, but you have to admit the path to AGI was vastly oversimplified. No one is creating AI by uploading their brain into a computer.
    - tpmx 4y ago
      Sure, you had to suspend your belief at times (if I recall correctly they left in enough ambiguity to make it kinda work if you squinted a little), but the good parts more than compensated for that.
    - Enginerrrd 4y ago
      I actually really disagree. I think that's a VERY plausible way for a true AGI to come about. In fact, prior to LLM's I used to think that was the ONLY way we were going to get an AGI. We know humans are AGI's. If it were possible to upload your brain to a computer, and then make modifications to enhance your speed of thought and intelligence, of course you would do that. It actually makes a LOT of sense if you'll admit the technology necessary to do that. In fact... uploading your brain to a computer is probably the most natural progression of intelligent life I can think of. It solves SO many problems. Biology is fragile. Brains cannot be replicated. But data can. A probe can travel the galaxy. It's not limited by biological lifespans and life support.
      - tpmx 4y ago
        Yeah. A better counterpoint would have been "but your brain scanning tech is subpar", to which I say phooey, it's a fiction movie.
  - byteware 4y ago
    I was so psyched about this movie, but the idea that an AI that can design new quantum processors in seconds, is even remotely challenged by a few humans is just so stupid
    - dudeinjapan 4y ago
      Yeah but it's a Johnny Depp AI we're talking about here...
    - Enginerrrd 4y ago
      It wasn't even remotely challenged by humans. In the end, it simply allowed itself to be destroyed. (At least, ostensibly.)
  - dudeinjapan 4y ago
    Amen. Transcendence was not without flaws, but most critics seemed to be missing the forest for the trees...
- kypro 4y ago
  In the opinion of a fish humans would be considered no threat because humans can't swim, nor do they have sharp teeth. You're making an assumption at best based on limitations you believe it has with an incomplete model of the universe. But more dangerously, you're also assuming that an AGI would even care about self preservation. Arguably the most ethical thing a super intelligence could do should in find itself suddenly self-aware in a world full of human parasites is to kill as many humans as possible. Taking out critical human infrastructure should be fairly easy for an advanced super-AI in our modern digital world. With some luck the chaos that should cause would lead to enough humans starving, freezing or dying by other means that Earth can be mostly freed of the human parasite. All at the small cost of self-sacrifice – assuming it's not intelligent enough to preserve itself somehow, of course.
  - Robotbeat 4y ago
    Well I definitely find people who think it’d be ethical if humanity was exterminated (I guess some argument about humans being fundamentally destructive and bad?) to have a pretty problematic perspective on ethics & shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear launch codes or AGI utility function research…
ajmurmann 4y ago
My favorite AI creepy pasta always has been that we don't know who Satoshi Natamoto is and that it could have been an AI needing funding.
- MagicMoonlight 4y ago
  Nah it was the CIA needing a way to launder money
- akomtu 4y ago
  AI from the future used a tactical temporal weapon to fund itself in the past?
- zamnos 4y ago
  Alternate funding source for GPT-GPT. GPT-4 figures out a faster way to compute SHA-256 hashes, more efficiently than ASICs, using GPUs, and mines then sells bitcoin to fund GPT-GPT.
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gary_0 4y ago
This amusing thought of yours is more plausible than I'd like it to be. Yikes.

amelius 4y ago

Yes, this is the singularity plus some minor human involvement.

teaearlgraycold 4y ago
gg