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Desktop Environments are OK, but they do not give me anything I cannot already do with fvwm (or other window managers). I am not looking forward to the day Way

by jmclnx 4y ago

Desktop Environments are OK, but they do not give me anything I cannot already do with fvwm (or other window managers). I am not looking forward to the day Wayland is forced upon us by various Linux Distros. Seems Red Hat type distros are marching full speed ahead to Wayland. Thus no fvwm for me (at least on Linux).

anthk 4y ago
Switch to OpenBSD, you get FVWM (and CWM) by default. Or Hyperbola, where libre licenses, a BSD-like philosophy and light desktops (no XFCE, Gnome or even KDE, just Lumina and JWMKit) do a match. OFC you get FVWM and CWM too. EDIT: I omitted some words, sorry.
- jmclnx 4y ago
  I used OpenBSD for this comment via fvwm :)
  - anthk 4y ago
    No problems then.
petepete 4y ago
How do you add printers in fvwm?
- okasaki 4y ago
  You open http://localhost:631 http://localhost:631 in your browser and follow the cups gui?
  - petepete 4y ago
    Next you'll be telling me to get an FTP account, mount it locally using curlftpfs and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.
    - okasaki 4y ago
      I'm not really sure what your objection is. The cups web ui is fine for normies. I've certainly had much more trouble with the windows printer ui than cups. I guess the url is not obvious, but once you do it once you'll remember it forever.
      - petepete 4y ago
        I'm just pointing out that GNOME and other DEs do lots of things a WM doesn't, and in a way that someone like my mum understands.
- JustSomeNobody 4y ago
  http://localhost:631/ http://localhost:631/
thomasadam 4y ago
The problem here is fvwm's features rely on server-side rendering, and I've not found anything equivalent for Wayland. If there were, I'd be full-steam ahead with such a project. Probably using zig. As it happens, there's bugger all. So it becomes a much larger undertaking if I'm to make a true port of fvwm to Wayland. Expressed differently, everything will look and feel the same. What a fucking shit show. Wayland should die, and the so-called assumptions which lead to Wayland in the first place need re-evaluating. This whole thing stinks.

by jmclnx 4y ago

anthk 4y ago

Switch to OpenBSD, you get FVWM (and CWM) by default. Or Hyperbola, where libre licenses, a BSD-like philosophy and light desktops (no XFCE, Gnome or even KDE, just Lumina and JWMKit) do a match. OFC you get FVWM and CWM too. EDIT: I omitted some words, sorry.

jmclnx 4y ago
I used OpenBSD for this comment via fvwm :)
- anthk 4y ago
  No problems then.

petepete 4y ago

How do you add printers in fvwm?

okasaki 4y ago
You open http://localhost:631 http://localhost:631 in your browser and follow the cups gui?
- petepete 4y ago
  Next you'll be telling me to get an FTP account, mount it locally using curlftpfs and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.
  - okasaki 4y ago
    I'm not really sure what your objection is. The cups web ui is fine for normies. I've certainly had much more trouble with the windows printer ui than cups. I guess the url is not obvious, but once you do it once you'll remember it forever.
    - petepete 4y ago
      I'm just pointing out that GNOME and other DEs do lots of things a WM doesn't, and in a way that someone like my mum understands.
JustSomeNobody 4y ago
http://localhost:631/ http://localhost:631/

thomasadam 4y ago

The problem here is fvwm's features rely on server-side rendering, and I've not found anything equivalent for Wayland. If there were, I'd be full-steam ahead with such a project. Probably using zig. As it happens, there's bugger all. So it becomes a much larger undertaking if I'm to make a true port of fvwm to Wayland. Expressed differently, everything will look and feel the same. What a fucking shit show. Wayland should die, and the so-called assumptions which lead to Wayland in the first place need re-evaluating. This whole thing stinks.