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There is NOTHING a foreign-owned company can do to change something that is so fundamental to China's culture and politics. This is the responsibility of Foxcon
by beatle 15y ago
There is NOTHING a foreign-owned company can do to change something that is so fundamental to China's culture and politics. This is the responsibility of Foxconn and the Chinese Government.
This is the norm in China because the Chinese government itself encourages, supports and even demands this kind of labor conditions.
- sambeau 15y agoYou have to crush some grapes to make some wine? Mr Otis regrets that his company profits from using sweatshops But to trade with these small countries youve got to afford the pay offs Its not HIM exploiting them, its their own governments, running their countries on bribes. And besides, he pays £10 a month to charity and that will apparently save 5 lives. http://www.myspace.com/scroobiuspip/blog/161467332 http://www.myspace.com/scroobiuspip/blog/161467332 Heard here @15:15: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b8zvx/Poetry_Please_Music_and_Lyrics/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b8zvx/Poetry_Please_...
- beatle 15y agoFoxconn is exploiting its workers. not Apple.
- oldstrangers 15y agoYou surely can't be that naive. There are numerous things a foreign company can do, such as leaving the country entirely. Threaten to withdraw unless China and Foxconn begin to take these issues more seriously. At $13 billion a quarter in profit and $100 billion in cash, it's not like Apple doesn't have a choice as to where their products are made. Another idea is to offer financial incentives for factories that meet strict safety requirements. Offer them better terms, longer contracts, etc.
- beatle 15y agoYOU surely can't be this naive.
- droithomme 15y agooldstrangers, beatle, who you are debating with, seems to be a PR rep for Apple, he comes into every thread that mentions Apple and advances the positives and deflects the negatives. He doesn't respond to most other threads, it's Apple ones he goes for specifically. This sort of single-topic commenter doesn't match the usage pattern of real people, they are always working for someone.
- el_presidente 15y agoIf apple is paying Foxconn, then they are encouraging and supporting those labor conditions. If they set deadlines for delivering the product, they are also demanding those conditions.
- Volpe 15y ago> This is the norm in China because the Chinese government itself encourages, supports and even demands this kind of labor conditions. No it's not the norm, and the government doesn't encourage and definitely doesn't demand these conditions. It does support them, but in an apathetic "how the hell do we even try to stop this" kind of way. Not a "Yeah I want those workers to suffer" kind of way. The chinese govt is not a 2 dimensional evil monster that The West paint it to be. It is like most govts with a left and right wing, and (shock-horror) even debate! The difference between Mao Zedong, Chou Enlai, and Deng XiaoPing is evidence of this segregation.
- beatle 15y agoThe Chinese government want low wages to keep factories from leaving China. They don't want to lose factories to Bangladesh, Brazil, Philippines, Vietnam or India.
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- MengYuanLong 15y agoIf you read through the comments on this thread, it becomes apparent that posters "already know everything about China",its government, and its people. Reading statements contending that it is a developed country make that clear. That said, I appreciate that you still braved the waters and tried to correct some of these misconceptions.