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vscode is an incredible piece of software, better than all the paid options in my opinion, the amount of features they pump out month to month is outstanding, j

vscode is an incredible piece of software, better than all the paid options in my opinion, the amount of features they pump out month to month is outstanding, just a bit slow due to electron. I never understood why they put so much effort into a free product that I run from Linux and Mac, but I'm happily paying the copilot subscription so it all makes sense now.

withinboredom 4y ago
You honestly had me do a double take. Copilot costs money? Maybe I get it through some other thing, but its been free for me as long as I can remember. It's wrong so often that I generally keep it on because it's entertaining. I wouldn't pay for it.
- GartzenDeHaes 4y ago
  You might be thinking of IntelliCode, which was released in 2019. https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    No, I use in PHPStorm as a plug-in.
- infinityio 4y ago
  I think copilot is free in the education pack - you might have got it from there?
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    Looks like I get it through my organization.
bombela 4y ago
It's free and electron because they can run it in a web browser, running everything on MS Azure. With code on GitHub and CI on GitHub etc etc. The whole dev experience offered to companies as a service via a series of web applications. Companies will love this. Just get any web browser, preferably Microsoft Edge on a Microsoft Window Pro on a Microsoft Surface laptop. Open Microsoft GitHub workspace. To dev for your Microsoft Azure hosted Linux VM. Run the CI on GitHub. Use Microsoft O365 for your design doc. And Microsoft Team for communication. Poor little Linux in the middle.
- CoolCold 4y ago
  Why poor little Linux? Those got what they wanted. No gloomy project managers above you, just write the code you like, express yourself? Check No telemetry to know what average Joe The Normie uses and wants? Check No spending time on meetings and plannings, boring strategy discussions, just do a bit of here and there what your soul wants today? Check Love to tinker and customize your setup without leaving a chance for IT department to standardize on software and settings rollouts, no MDM covering YOUR system ? You are out of enterprise - Check Dreams came true, why poor?
  - bombela 4y ago
    Because the linux desktop is forbidden at many tech companies nowadays, for the very reasons you wrote! At a company I worked, overtime they wanted everybody on Mac or Windows. No code locally, only ssh onto a Linux VM. When you argue you can also ssh from Linux, the response is: we cannot run the spywares on Linux. Sure you can change job. But I have noticed the trend all over among my circle of friends.
    - CoolCold 4y ago
      You confirm my point - Linux fanboys don't wanna be standardized and play nice with policies and should not wonder why others don't wanna play with them. Mission accomplished. Nothing to complain about. Those who are not fanboys, asking themselves - how can we change to collaborate? Microsoft/Ubuntu are moving into enterprise direction though https://joymalya.com/linux-management-with-microsoft-intune/ https://joymalya.com/linux-management-with-microsoft-intune/
insane_dreamer 4y ago
better than PyCharm for python?
- OOPMan 4y ago
  Nope, but VsCode addicts are usually too cheap to try a paid-for tool like PyCharm
  - snotrockets 4y ago
    There’s a free, open source, community edition, which provides most of the functionality
- jackosdev 4y ago
  Nah that editor is much better if you're just using Python, but vscode imo is better for polyglots, the experience and keybinds stay the same across languages once you work out `tasks.json` and `launch.json`
nunobrito 4y ago
Would have to differ. Best IDE would have the Borland Pascal 7/C back in the 90s, then Delphi and eventually Netbeans/Eclipse to take that position as something worthwhile between Linux, Mac and Windows. For me Delphi Pascal was the pinacle of compilers/IDE combos. A simply fantastic combination of GUI editor, assembler support, fast compiler and truly useful documentation with pratical examples at the click of a button without needing internet. VScode with a proper copilot seems to be a game changer. Crossing fingers.
theshrike79 4y ago
Yep. IntelliJ's stuff is the only one that actually competes with VSCode - and the playing field is surprisingly even if you add the VSCode plugin ecosystem to it. For C# Rider is still the gold standard in my book, but for Go I still prefer VSCode to GoLand.

withinboredom 4y ago

You honestly had me do a double take. Copilot costs money? Maybe I get it through some other thing, but its been free for me as long as I can remember. It's wrong so often that I generally keep it on because it's entertaining. I wouldn't pay for it.

GartzenDeHaes 4y ago
You might be thinking of IntelliCode, which was released in 2019. https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/
- withinboredom 4y ago
  No, I use in PHPStorm as a plug-in.
infinityio 4y ago
I think copilot is free in the education pack - you might have got it from there?
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Looks like I get it through my organization.

bombela 4y ago

It's free and electron because they can run it in a web browser, running everything on MS Azure. With code on GitHub and CI on GitHub etc etc. The whole dev experience offered to companies as a service via a series of web applications. Companies will love this. Just get any web browser, preferably Microsoft Edge on a Microsoft Window Pro on a Microsoft Surface laptop. Open Microsoft GitHub workspace. To dev for your Microsoft Azure hosted Linux VM. Run the CI on GitHub. Use Microsoft O365 for your design doc. And Microsoft Team for communication. Poor little Linux in the middle.

CoolCold 4y ago
Why poor little Linux? Those got what they wanted. No gloomy project managers above you, just write the code you like, express yourself? Check No telemetry to know what average Joe The Normie uses and wants? Check No spending time on meetings and plannings, boring strategy discussions, just do a bit of here and there what your soul wants today? Check Love to tinker and customize your setup without leaving a chance for IT department to standardize on software and settings rollouts, no MDM covering YOUR system ? You are out of enterprise - Check Dreams came true, why poor?
- bombela 4y ago
  Because the linux desktop is forbidden at many tech companies nowadays, for the very reasons you wrote! At a company I worked, overtime they wanted everybody on Mac or Windows. No code locally, only ssh onto a Linux VM. When you argue you can also ssh from Linux, the response is: we cannot run the spywares on Linux. Sure you can change job. But I have noticed the trend all over among my circle of friends.
  - CoolCold 4y ago
    You confirm my point - Linux fanboys don't wanna be standardized and play nice with policies and should not wonder why others don't wanna play with them. Mission accomplished. Nothing to complain about. Those who are not fanboys, asking themselves - how can we change to collaborate? Microsoft/Ubuntu are moving into enterprise direction though https://joymalya.com/linux-management-with-microsoft-intune/ https://joymalya.com/linux-management-with-microsoft-intune/

insane_dreamer 4y ago

better than PyCharm for python?

OOPMan 4y ago
Nope, but VsCode addicts are usually too cheap to try a paid-for tool like PyCharm
- snotrockets 4y ago
  There’s a free, open source, community edition, which provides most of the functionality
jackosdev 4y ago
Nah that editor is much better if you're just using Python, but vscode imo is better for polyglots, the experience and keybinds stay the same across languages once you work out `tasks.json` and `launch.json`

nunobrito 4y ago

Would have to differ. Best IDE would have the Borland Pascal 7/C back in the 90s, then Delphi and eventually Netbeans/Eclipse to take that position as something worthwhile between Linux, Mac and Windows. For me Delphi Pascal was the pinacle of compilers/IDE combos. A simply fantastic combination of GUI editor, assembler support, fast compiler and truly useful documentation with pratical examples at the click of a button without needing internet. VScode with a proper copilot seems to be a game changer. Crossing fingers.

theshrike79 4y ago

Yep. IntelliJ's stuff is the only one that actually competes with VSCode - and the playing field is surprisingly even if you add the VSCode plugin ecosystem to it. For C# Rider is still the gold standard in my book, but for Go I still prefer VSCode to GoLand.