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> The pandemic created a lot more chronically ill people. This is a condition typically associated with people who are already seriously unwell. You're making

by timr 4y ago

> The pandemic created a lot more chronically ill people. This is a condition typically associated with people who are already seriously unwell. You're making a huge leap. The magnitude of "unwell" here is critical. This particular infection has been killing people who are at end of life -- people in nursing homes, hospice, etc. Maybe the pandemic created more of these people, but it's not the same thing as "long covid" (if that even has a definition). Folks with these sorts of ME/CFS/Long Covid constellations of symptoms are simply not in the same class as elderly people in nursing homes.

DoreenMichele 4y ago
It often attacks people with respiratory issues who need invasive devices to treat their lung issues. A lot of people got such treatment for covid. Edit: To the coward who made a drive by swipe at me then deleted it before I could hit reply: Look, I'm not the one putting out info that this infection has spread dramatically. The CDC is. I'm wondering what some of the mechanisms are for spreading it. We likely don't know what the tipping point is for something like this. You treat enough school kids for parasitic worms in a developing country and general incidence goes down for the entire neighborhood surrounding the school.
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- timr 4y ago
  > It often attacks people with respiratory issues who need invasive devices to treat their lung issues. A lot of people got such treatment for covid. First, it doesn't "often" attack anyone -- there have only been several thousand cases, total. Second, you can't bundle together "was on a ventilator at some point" with "is currently on a vent and in a hospital". Very different, and again, the latter is where this fungus is being seen. People in hospitals, having serious full-time care. These are not "lung issues", they're acute, near-death interventions. Third, people in the ICU on a vent are at serious risk for everything -- a rare fungus is far down the list, below things like strep, H. inf., S. aureus, E. coli, etc., which are ubiquitous, and all over your body, right now. If you're not worried about those, you shouldn't worry about this. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056625/#:~:text=Typically%2C%20bacteria%20causing%20early%2Donset,Klebsiella%20pneumonia%2C%20Enterobacter%20species%2C%20Proteus https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056625/#:~:tex...
  - DoreenMichele 4y ago
    First, it doesn't "often" attack anyone Candida species are isolated with high frequency from cystic fibrosis patients... https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/48/Supplement_1/S114/1032043#:~:text=Candida%20species%20are%20isolated%20with%20high%20frequency%20from,of%20Candida%20infection%20among%20patients%20with%20cystic%20fibrosis https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/48/Supplement_1/S114/10.... Granted, not specifically about candida auris, but the pattern stands. If you are immunocompromised and they stick medical devices into you, this is a good vector for such things to take hold.
    - timr 4y ago
      "Candida species" are ubiquitous. Literally inhabiting you, right now. This one is rare. Those are not.
      - DoreenMichele 4y ago
        Rest assured, this is not news to me. And I don't see any relevance whatsoever.

by timr 4y ago

DoreenMichele 4y ago

It often attacks people with respiratory issues who need invasive devices to treat their lung issues. A lot of people got such treatment for covid. Edit: To the coward who made a drive by swipe at me then deleted it before I could hit reply: Look, I'm not the one putting out info that this infection has spread dramatically. The CDC is. I'm wondering what some of the mechanisms are for spreading it. We likely don't know what the tipping point is for something like this. You treat enough school kids for parasitic worms in a developing country and general incidence goes down for the entire neighborhood surrounding the school.

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timr 4y ago
> It often attacks people with respiratory issues who need invasive devices to treat their lung issues. A lot of people got such treatment for covid. First, it doesn't "often" attack anyone -- there have only been several thousand cases, total. Second, you can't bundle together "was on a ventilator at some point" with "is currently on a vent and in a hospital". Very different, and again, the latter is where this fungus is being seen. People in hospitals, having serious full-time care. These are not "lung issues", they're acute, near-death interventions. Third, people in the ICU on a vent are at serious risk for everything -- a rare fungus is far down the list, below things like strep, H. inf., S. aureus, E. coli, etc., which are ubiquitous, and all over your body, right now. If you're not worried about those, you shouldn't worry about this. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056625/#:~:text=Typically%2C%20bacteria%20causing%20early%2Donset,Klebsiella%20pneumonia%2C%20Enterobacter%20species%2C%20Proteus https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056625/#:~:tex...
- DoreenMichele 4y ago
  First, it doesn't "often" attack anyone Candida species are isolated with high frequency from cystic fibrosis patients... https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/48/Supplement_1/S114/1032043#:~:text=Candida%20species%20are%20isolated%20with%20high%20frequency%20from,of%20Candida%20infection%20among%20patients%20with%20cystic%20fibrosis https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/48/Supplement_1/S114/10.... Granted, not specifically about candida auris, but the pattern stands. If you are immunocompromised and they stick medical devices into you, this is a good vector for such things to take hold.
  - timr 4y ago
    "Candida species" are ubiquitous. Literally inhabiting you, right now. This one is rare. Those are not.
    - DoreenMichele 4y ago
      Rest assured, this is not news to me. And I don't see any relevance whatsoever.