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And have you ever been to a government office to pull a permit? Or dealt with government procurement? Or attempted to get paperwork through the FAA? Yes. It wa

And have you ever been to a government office to pull a permit? Or dealt with government procurement? Or attempted to get paperwork through the FAA? Yes. It was relatively straightforward, as long as you followed the rules. The hard part is following all the relevant rules, almost all of which exist because people have tried to rip off the government or lawmakers decided to impose unrelated requirements on procurement. That's not the fault of the government workers whose job it is to carry out the requirements that have been imposed on them. And what does an opinion piece about teachers have to do with procurement? Those are completely separate things.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
>Yes. It was relatively straightforward, as long as you followed the rules. The hard part is not going postal as you find out piece by piece that person A didn't tell you about rule X and that department T actually has a revised form W that... and on and on until you find out that you didn't actually have to do any of that because there's some other less shitty process none of these people told you about. It's like the bureaucratic runaround is the default behavior in some of these organizations.
- monknomo 4y ago
  something that's helpful to keep in mind is that the government orgs you deal with frequently have what have what they must do set by law, with little latitude to change things other than bugging congress
- gamblor956 4y ago
  It's not person A's job to tell you about rule X or that department T revised form W, or that you don't even have to do any of that at all because there's an alternative process for doing it. It's your job to do the research and do things out correctly so that person A doesn't have to waste time telling you what you should be doing. Or do you think that government agencies have the budget to hire customer support representative and receptionists with intimate knowledge of their department's rules and regulations?

dsfyu404ed 4y ago

>Yes. It was relatively straightforward, as long as you followed the rules. The hard part is not going postal as you find out piece by piece that person A didn't tell you about rule X and that department T actually has a revised form W that... and on and on until you find out that you didn't actually have to do any of that because there's some other less shitty process none of these people told you about. It's like the bureaucratic runaround is the default behavior in some of these organizations.

monknomo 4y ago
something that's helpful to keep in mind is that the government orgs you deal with frequently have what have what they must do set by law, with little latitude to change things other than bugging congress
gamblor956 4y ago
It's not person A's job to tell you about rule X or that department T revised form W, or that you don't even have to do any of that at all because there's an alternative process for doing it. It's your job to do the research and do things out correctly so that person A doesn't have to waste time telling you what you should be doing. Or do you think that government agencies have the budget to hire customer support representative and receptionists with intimate knowledge of their department's rules and regulations?