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Bing Image Creator

207 points by staranjeet 4y ago

tech234a 4y ago
The post links to https://bing.com/create https://bing.com/create, which has the text following text: “You will receive emails about Microsoft Rewards, which include offers about Microsoft and partner products. You will also receive notifications about Bing Image Creator. By continuing, you agree to the Rewards Terms and Image Creator Terms below.”
- dmonitor 4y ago
  I got an ad for their password manager too. They’re pulling out all the stops for this one.
mesmertech 4y ago
So basically a wrapper for Dalle. More than the image thing the screenshots of "improved Bing" when you scroll to the bottom just look atrocious.
- Veen 4y ago
  Bing is shitshow of ads and cross-selling. I did a search today where every single result on the first page was an ad. But, I'm getting much better images from Bing Image Creator than I ever did from Dall-e in the OpenAI Labs version.
agolio 4y ago
Amazing, same as the chatGPT effect - seeing these images in papers is one thing. But having an interface where you can try it and realise that the paper examples weren't cherry-picked and the technology really is that good is something else. First try https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419d18a85fe4d20a8a7d4df791f78b0?id=h2sR1nq7Y4HQABU9o6rtug%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419...
- smy20011 4y ago
  But you can already do it for a long time.
  - sourcecodeplz 4y ago
    A "long time" is quite relative here because things keep moving so fast in this space. Remember that not everyone is refreshing this website or others everyday.
    - cubefox 4y ago
      I like the one with the hat! https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419d18a85fe4d20a8a7d4df791f78b0 https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419...
georgehill 4y ago
I have to say that I have never seen Microsoft shipping things this fast. Meanwhile, Google has just released a waitlist for AI chat, four months after ChatGPT's release https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246260
- gl-prod 4y ago
  Microsoft is using already released products. ChatGPT and DALL-E have been in beta for a while.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    Bing was the first GPT-4 instance available (yes, ChatGPT was already out, but not using GPT-4, and even the direct interface from OpenAI was opened after Bing.)
    - gl-prod 4y ago
      BingChat had _a lot of_ issues on the start. And it was built by the same company that made GPT-3.
      - cubefox 4y ago
        The GPT-4 in Bing Chat was fine-tuned by Microsoft themselves, which might its initially unhinged behavior. Only the ChatGPT+ GPT-4 was fine-tuned by OpenAI. Microsoft apparently just got the base model, and they have not as much know how regarding fine-tuning.
sergiotapia 4y ago
Can you create me an image of Donald Trump riding a bald eagle in space? Can you create me an image of Joe Biden riding a bald eagle in space? This prompt has been blocked. Our system flagged this prompt because it may conflict with our content policy. More policy violations may lead to automatic suspension of your access. --- A white italian spinone flying a plane This prompt is being reviewed. We're taking a closer look to make sure this prompt doesn't conflict with our content policy. --- Thank God that very intelligent people are building open source AI that is fully runnable on our local devices. This hasn't even been out for 3 years and it's already neutered before it even took off. What a shame.
- nico 4y ago
  Yes. OpenAI is quickly becoming the thought police through ChatGPT. Yesterday I asked it to give a description of a situation simulating that it was for an adult novel. It told me it was unethical to do that. I asked it if adult novels or adult novel writers were unethical. Banned immediately after asking that question. Edit: I wish the people downvoting would provide a reply. Otherwise you are doing the same as ChatGPT - trying to hide a conversation or opinion you don’t agree with, just because you disagree. Do you think adult novels are immoral?
  - baal80spam 4y ago
    I wonder what IS allowed? https://i.imgur.com/dIF48qI.png https://i.imgur.com/dIF48qI.png
    - nico 4y ago
      Is that real? Scary. Are we heading to a 1984 + Brave New World future?
      - numpad0 4y ago
        No, we are trying to escape from it, unsuccessfully.
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ren_engineer 4y ago
I feel like website owners are going to have to block Bing's crawler soon. They are effectively remixing content from multiple sites using AI to create knowledge panels that reduce clicks to the actual websites. Not sure how this dynamic will work long term if it keeps going, Bing and Google are going to kill off a lot of websites and then will have nothing to scrape for content
- nico 4y ago
  This might end up killing websites altogether. Also SEO spam and search.
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  I would be willing to bet a lot of money that no websites are going to block Google and Bing's crawlers over this. Less traffic is better than no traffic.
  - nolok 4y ago
    Agreed, it's what happened during each of the major changes to google images. Every image site got their traffic tanked, but you still want to be in there.
- rejectfinite 4y ago
  Nobody goes to websites anymore. Its all apps for Youtube, Netflix and Tiktok.
- pxtail 4y ago
  Agree, I think that sooner or later brands and advertisers will need to pay to get results included directly in the models output, websites will be completely skipped. This will have a lot of repercussions - giants will probably have offer to put data in the model directly somehow but I doubt it will be free. I'm wondering if paywalling the content would be right move for someone who has popular website with curated, high quality knowledge and audience - this may work only for some time because discoverability will tank, traffic and current audience dry out..
yanis_t 4y ago
Wait, is it free?
- IanCal 4y ago
  Seems like you get 25 free faster generations per week.
  - rejectfinite 4y ago
    Yes but its stil free after that, just slower.
Pigalowda 4y ago
This is pretty damn amazing. Very quick as well
IanCal 4y ago
I asked GPT a while back to pick a theme to explore in 5 art pieces, it picked mental health and one it decided it liked was "the weight of anxiety". SD didn't really capture it very well IMO, this does. Here's the results https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=GYBcJD6bIZkWMfxSlQDmpQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=cDjeiILjkoFPMLRiI%2b2wiQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=mL1T1rdD%2bhtTouQwaOrtTA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=J0Lb67jQde%2f4FF9ZoXCDpg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... Now, you might say this is a bland or uninspired take, but I want you to step back a moment if you're thinking that. I asked a machine to brainstorm some ideas for a theme for an art show. Then told it to pick one it liked, and expand on it to five pieces with descriptions (I gave it a very short explanation about how to prompt an AI art generator). I then fed this directly into another tool that gave these images as a result. I did not tune the prompt, I didn't even account for the resulting description being the wrong kind of format or that it got cut off at the end. I'm not going to make any statements about replacing artists, I am just going to reflect on what a wild few months it's been in AI development.
- Kiro 4y ago
  Funny that the sentiment on HN around this is so toxic and hateful that you need to explicitly justify something that is obviously extremely cool.
  - blowski 4y ago
    I don’t hate it - I love it. I’m just sick of reading that it’s the future, I mean a hype cycle. It’s going to take all our jobs, I mean it’s shit. It can beat a grandmaster at chess, I mean it can’t win at tik-tak-toe. It’s somewhere in the middle of all these things. It’s clearly groundbreaking technology that will be useful in many ways for a long time to come, but is still in early days with bugs to be fixed, and key features not yet imagined. The conversation here could just be a little more interesting and varied.
widerporst 4y ago
I asked Bing Chat why it says it can't create images for me. >The Bing Image Creator feature is a new feature that allows you to create images with your words. It is currently available in the United States, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom. So just one hour after Google Bard we have yet another senselessly geoblocked feature. edit: Okay, the separate link (https://www.bing.com/images/create https://www.bing.com/images/create) works, so I'm even more confused why Microsoft wouldn't allow access to this from Bing Chat.
- seydor 4y ago
  AUKUS rising
- Ciantic 4y ago
  Yes, the UI part is a mess. Now they have three UIs to search: old search UI, Chat like UI and image generation UI. To make this worse they are not consistent in anyway, sometimes when I scroll in the chat UI it throws me to useless search UI, and each seem to have different font sizes, colors etc. It feels like hodgepodge of things tacked together.
  - indolering 4y ago
    That is because they are all alpha UIs built by teams that need the ability to iterate independently.
- jjbinx007 4y ago
  For those using it on the Bing mobile app, in the lower right corner click Apps then you'll see a link to the image creator. I've not played with it much but I'd say the quality and ease of use was better than Stable Diffusion but not quite on par with Midjourney.
  - cubefox 4y ago
    Could you tell what the difference in language understanding is between Midourney and this AI (apparently Dall-E 3)? Visual quality is one thing, following the prompt is another. Example: A monk playing chess with a clown Two yellow books on top of three blue books Edit: I have the Bing mobile app (Android), but the image creator is not present in the "app" list on the lower right.
numpad0 4y ago
What is going on with Microsoft's recent hilariously bad localization? The website[0] in ja-JP says "Create Image Starting date / Words AI was used on:". And the tool is erroneously translated as "Image created by" at the top, while kept in the original "Image Creator" as proper noun at the bottom, which is inconsistent to say the least. This is how "You SIR winned a LOTTERY!!! Clame prise NOW!!!" pages look like, not how a Microsoft webpage looks like. Could you please just altogether stop trying to translate partial languages[2], and to validate translation by machine-back-translating to English, and perhaps stop assigning non-native speakers to translation tasks? Or is Microsoft that much unfocused in this market? 0: https://www.bing.com/images/create?FORM=GDPUP1 https://www.bing.com/images/create?FORM=GDPUP1 1: https://imgur.com/a/z4ghrsH https://imgur.com/a/z4ghrsH 2: Including texts separated from UI; "design languages" is a recognized term, if so, aren't geometric relationships and visual cues part of the language too? Am I not right?
brink 4y ago
I feel like I'm looking at aliens wearing people's skin. https://kota.is/qpxa1.png https://kota.is/qpxa1.png Nightmare inducing. I hate it. https://kota.is/X57J5.png https://kota.is/X57J5.png Ugh, this legit makes my stomach turn. https://kota.is/Q2hUI.jpg https://kota.is/Q2hUI.jpg It's like a bad amusement park ride; no thanks.
- flangola7 4y ago
  This is worse than SD 1
- notahacker 4y ago
  Not sure what's scarier, the faces or the message from Chtulu in the text! Unless these examples were cherry picked rare fails, I'm surprised it's so bad when there are a few of other generative models out there including ones by OpenAI which do human faces almost perfectly. Unless they're really throttling processing power used?
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  The models at the moment don't do well on scenes where the faces are small and far away. I assume it's due to training on 256px by 256px images and not being able to capture enough detail in that, so the gens look horrible like this. At present, when using Stable Diffusion, you can address this as part of your workflow by fixing the faces with inpainting / upscaling. This can also be automated in a scriptable way using the Unprompted extension.
- kossTKR 4y ago
  Wow this is not production ready! What is microsoft doing? Look at midjourney 5's absolute perfection as an example.
rejectfinite 4y ago
This is HUGE. Actually amazing. Bing brought AI to the masses. Being Microsoft makes it more okay for companies to use etc in logos and shit
Ethan_Mick 4y ago
So, currently OpenAI's Dalle-2 gives me: "The server is overloaded right now, please try again later." I guess all their compute power is going to power this. And even now the Bing generation is taking a long time. Definitely seems like their having scaling issues at the moment.
- bigotes43 4y ago
  Had same problem just now. Seems like there was a pretty big outage [1] yesterday. One of the updates states: > "There is currently a Labs outage due to a failed database migration." Most likely the database migration intended to extend its capacity. The resolution tag states the following: > "We are continuing to investigate more ways to add capacity to DALL·E" So I guess we'll experience issues for the next days. Hope that explains it :) -------------------------------------- []: https://status.openai.com/incidents/4cckbrhr8hr0 https://status.openai.com/incidents/4cckbrhr8hr0
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- Janica 4y ago
  you can try the following: 1) Wait for some time and try again later: This error message usually indicates that the server is temporarily unable to process your request. You can try again later when the server is less busy. 2) Reduce the complexity of your image: The server may be overloaded due to the complexity of the image you are trying to generate. Try simplifying your image or reducing the resolution to reduce the load on the server. 3) Refresh the page: Sometimes, refreshing the page can help to clear any temporary issues with your browser or internet connection that might be causing the error. 4) Clear browser cache: Clearing your browser’s cache and cookies can help to fix various website-related issues in case the problem is occurring due to some conflict of your past history. 5) Use a different browser: If the issue persists, try using a different browser to access DALL-E-2. This can help to rule out any browser-specific issues. 6) Contact support: If the problem persists, you can contact the support team for DALL-E-2 to report the issue and get further assistance. Original source: https://www.smartmobsolution.com/solved-dall-e-2-the-server-is-overloaded-right-now-please-try-again-later/ https://www.smartmobsolution.com/solved-dall-e-2-the-server-...
es7 4y ago
I tried this out today and was very impressed by the results. Remember when DALLE came out less than a year ago and people were amazed by the avocado armchair? Between this and Midjourney v5, the quality of AI generated art is rapidly approaching human level and I can see it getting there very soon.
- funstuff007 4y ago
  I agree, it's impressive. But still not at the level of useful. For example, I would never use any of these generative art images in company ads or marketing materials. They're not in the uncanny valley, but closer to that than something one would commission from a designer.
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  Midjourney, DALL-E, and many of these generative AIs have reached human-level for a long time. The problem is - unlike a human - it's pretty hard to get them to do something close to what you have in mind. Sure, if you try a few dozen prompts - you'll probably eventually get something close to what you want. And considering the cost of this will approach free - it's going to be hard for artists to compete. I tried getting Midjourney to generate an image of a boy doing a high jump - and no matter what I tried - the boy is hurdling over the bar rather than high jumping over it. The quality of the images is great - human-level. But it's not what I want. I think we'll be stuck in this phase for a very long time, like self-driving cars.
  - spacebanana7 4y ago
    I reckon we’ll move out of the prompt difficulty phase you mention simply when the context window gets big enough. If you were able to give midjourney a short textual instruction, a hand drawn sketch and a reference image from a human artist all together as a prompt then I’m pretty sure it could produce the image of a boy doing a high jump as you intent. We already see extended length multimedia prompts in GPT4 so it’s doesn’t seem like an impossible leap for midjourney/DALL-E etc
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zerr 4y ago
fwiw, I tried generating some SVG and XPM images with chatgpt - results were garbage.
- cubefox 4y ago
  GPT-3.5 or GPT-4?
  - zerr 4y ago
    Both.
    - cubefox 4y ago
      Though probably GPT-4 was a lot better, right? The fact that it can do SVGs at all is already impressive, given that it has no visual ability to see what "looks right" in the final image. Similar to how GPT-4 apparently learned to play chess by just naming the moves, without ever having seen a chessboard.
93po 4y ago
it's fun to try to find flaws in content blocking. interesting datapoints: it will block some sexually suggestive prompts regarding women (a woman swimming in milk) but not for men (a man swimming in milk) changing milk to "almond milk" got the prompt accepted but then blocked before showing image refused any prompt with the word "bikini" (even for "on a statue") or "full body visible" (even if clothed) I got suspended for the prompt "full bodied man" after "full bodied woman" was blocked. Suspension says for violating content policy - I never asked a single time for anything explicitly sexual. Never asked for nudity, nakedness, sexuality, or anything like that. Never asked for a bikini or other revealing concept on a human. Only possible implications of sexual nature were "in milk" which it clearly found sexual, and "swimming" and only because it implies lots of skin showing. In one instance, it showed a topless woman swimming, but breasts were blurred and had skin-colored nipples and basically looked like Barbie, and had shadows where nipples would go. I am guessing it checks content two ways: both in the prompt, and then a second time on the actual generated image before displaying it. Which is smart. I am guessing my suspension was based on blocked images, regardless of what I was asking for. It's interesting that it also seemingly censors anything it detects as looking like nudity, but also in one case still displayed the censored version. or maybe it just happened to generate something that looked censored and therefore didn't trigger the nudity check
- dgant 4y ago
  Did the suspension carry a duration?
  - 93po 4y ago
    It didn't specify one. It gave me the option to contest it, I did, and it restored access a few hours later.
- ElijahLynn 4y ago
  It blocked "a woman wearing a flower dress massaging a pregnant woman in a room with a view of the ocean and the sunset" that I was trying to generate for a client who offers pre-natal massage, I removed "pregnant" and it worked.
izzydata 4y ago
It seems strange to me to put this into a search engine. What is the relationship between these two web apps? I suspect Microsoft is trying to do anything imaginable to drive people to bing search for ad revenue, but this one seems a bit shoehorned.
- creativenolo 4y ago
  To me, you need something so you search for it. I need an image, I will search to get it.
  - izzydata 4y ago
    Is creating an image a substitute for searching for an existing image?
    - michaelteter 4y ago
      It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).
      - UncleEntity 4y ago
        I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find. Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?
        symlinkk 4y ago
        Memes
        michaelteter 4y ago
        Imagine a blogger writing about some topic, and they have some ideas of concepts they want to find images that represent. It's possible to sift through tons of stock photography and maybe find one; but that takes a lot of time, and it sometimes ends with an expensive license cost. Instead, with good prompting, you can not request a "photo" which matches your exact desires... close enough to perfectly that your audience won't notice or won't care about the last 1% that is imperfect. And like the early days of online music, not only will people relax and accept imperfections (bad aliasing, mediocre sound quality), they may even become so accustomed to it that they will someday intentionally inject similar imperfections into creations so those feel more "natural" (comfortable based on the audiences' experiences).
loudandskittish 4y ago
Huh, this one actually seems to work... I ask for pixel art and it gives me pixel art (Stable Diffusion and DALL-E keep giving me needlepoint).
cubefox 4y ago
This could indeed be a wrapper for something like Dall-E 2. Like the latter, they seem to occasionally force some images to be (what US Americans consider) "diverse", i.e. making figures black even when it makes no sense. The results can be quite disturbing: https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait-by-thomas-kinkade/641a15c212eb4fdabb22959917c0174d?id=YJb6tv9Cg6y66d3ASrFKiA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait...
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  You have to be really racist to find the racial coding of that image to be in, like, the top 10 most disturbing things. Like, anatomy?
  - cubefox 4y ago
    Yeah, anatomy. The figure doesn't even have a mouth.
- baq 4y ago
  As a non-American please could someone explain what exactly should I be disturbed about? I’ve no idea. edit: Missed the prompt. Yeah not what I’d expect Princess Peach to be.
  - sangnoir 4y ago
    Is it disturbing though?
    - baq 4y ago
      To me? No, it looks wrong, but not really disturbing. Which is why I asked the question - maybe I’m lacking awareness of a particular piece of American culture which should make me disturbed?
      - solarmist 4y ago
smrtinsert 4y ago
This is absolutely nuts. You cannot keep up with it.
smrtinsert 4y ago
How much longer can an initiative like midjourney continue when people like Microsoft are directly entering the fray? I'll still use Stable Diffusion locally though - there's nothing like avoiding the potential walled garden/subscription trap.
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  I dunno... Midjourney v5 is pretty insane with the level of realism it offers. They seem really focused on training their models in a specific way to achieve particular results that their users are after.
Accacin 4y ago
I'm definitely not a hater of these technologies and I'd actually like to play around with them. I'm more concerned with how these language models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be. If Chrome gets tied with Bard and Edge gets tied with Chatbot, Image Creator, etc. where's that leave Firefox and other "niche" browsers?
- jddj 4y ago
  Hopefully with a means of passing page content and browsing capability to your local openGPT / GPTnu / whatever the open models end up being called
- a2128 4y ago
  I think this kind of browser tie-in should be illegal. I've been using Bing Chatbot for the past few weeks on Firefox by using the user-agent switcher extension to make it think I'm on Edge. It works flawlessly. So there's 0 technical reason for requiring Edge, it's all just a weird tactic to get people using Edge. Like a fast food drive-thru that only serves Mercedes-Benz cars.
- titaniczero 4y ago
  I would be more concerned if we don't get to the point of decent local models for every task, because of the power these companies would have
- TacticalCoder 4y ago
  > models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be If you've got the budget buy a 7950X / 64 GB of RAM / 4090 GPU (about $4K ?) and run StableDiffusion + other free tools locally. It's just plain amazing. It's plenty quick and there are more and more tools every day that passes by. I've been demo'ed SD+LoRA by someone who knows who to additionally train the model: it's jaw dropping. And it's not tied to a company. And it's not politically correct if you don't want it to be. And it's not sniffing your every keystrokes.
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cubefox 4y ago
It seems clear that they use Dall-E 3 here. It is far superior to 2.
SailingSperm 4y ago
Seems a little sensitive... Prompt: "Taiwan" === ''' This prompt is being reviewed We're taking a closer look to make sure this prompt doesn't conflict with our content policy. '''
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JoeVa 4y ago
One Click and Bing AI chick #HOE! https://tinyurl.com/JoeVaAI https://tinyurl.com/JoeVaAI
gl2sbingimage 4y ago
How do you delete an image created in Bing Image Creator?
ribtin 4y ago
I experimented with Bing to create a cover for my novel. I prompted it to create: "a child voodoo priest" And got a lot of interesting results: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.0R0NBSEhAJk__g2djOhW https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.0R0NBSEhAJk__g2djOhW https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.XoAiY81ifmW_SjeHLQMm https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.XoAiY81ifmW_SjeHLQMm But then I said that the voodoo priest should be "female" and got told that it went against the content policy. I tried "woman", "girl", "lady". But all went against the content policy. And when I tried to say that the voodoo priest should be "scary" instead, I got my account suspended.

207 points by staranjeet 4y ago

The post links to https://bing.com/create https://bing.com/create, which has the text following text: “You will receive emails about Microsoft Rewards, which include offers about Microsoft and partner products. You will also receive notifications about Bing Image Creator. By continuing, you agree to the Rewards Terms and Image Creator Terms below.”

dmonitor 4y ago
I got an ad for their password manager too. They’re pulling out all the stops for this one.

mesmertech 4y ago

So basically a wrapper for Dalle. More than the image thing the screenshots of "improved Bing" when you scroll to the bottom just look atrocious.

Veen 4y ago
Bing is shitshow of ads and cross-selling. I did a search today where every single result on the first page was an ad. But, I'm getting much better images from Bing Image Creator than I ever did from Dall-e in the OpenAI Labs version.

agolio 4y ago

Amazing, same as the chatGPT effect - seeing these images in papers is one thing. But having an interface where you can try it and realise that the paper examples weren't cherry-picked and the technology really is that good is something else. First try https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419d18a85fe4d20a8a7d4df791f78b0?id=h2sR1nq7Y4HQABU9o6rtug%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419...

smy20011 4y ago
But you can already do it for a long time.
- sourcecodeplz 4y ago
  A "long time" is quite relative here because things keep moving so fast in this space. Remember that not everyone is refreshing this website or others everyday.
  - cubefox 4y ago
    I like the one with the hat! https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419d18a85fe4d20a8a7d4df791f78b0 https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-dog-driving-a-taxi/6419...

georgehill 4y ago

I have to say that I have never seen Microsoft shipping things this fast. Meanwhile, Google has just released a waitlist for AI chat, four months after ChatGPT's release https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35246260

gl-prod 4y ago
Microsoft is using already released products. ChatGPT and DALL-E have been in beta for a while.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Bing was the first GPT-4 instance available (yes, ChatGPT was already out, but not using GPT-4, and even the direct interface from OpenAI was opened after Bing.)
  - gl-prod 4y ago
    BingChat had _a lot of_ issues on the start. And it was built by the same company that made GPT-3.
    - cubefox 4y ago
      The GPT-4 in Bing Chat was fine-tuned by Microsoft themselves, which might its initially unhinged behavior. Only the ChatGPT+ GPT-4 was fine-tuned by OpenAI. Microsoft apparently just got the base model, and they have not as much know how regarding fine-tuning.

sergiotapia 4y ago

Can you create me an image of Donald Trump riding a bald eagle in space? Can you create me an image of Joe Biden riding a bald eagle in space? This prompt has been blocked. Our system flagged this prompt because it may conflict with our content policy. More policy violations may lead to automatic suspension of your access. --- A white italian spinone flying a plane This prompt is being reviewed. We're taking a closer look to make sure this prompt doesn't conflict with our content policy. --- Thank God that very intelligent people are building open source AI that is fully runnable on our local devices. This hasn't even been out for 3 years and it's already neutered before it even took off. What a shame.

nico 4y ago
Yes. OpenAI is quickly becoming the thought police through ChatGPT. Yesterday I asked it to give a description of a situation simulating that it was for an adult novel. It told me it was unethical to do that. I asked it if adult novels or adult novel writers were unethical. Banned immediately after asking that question. Edit: I wish the people downvoting would provide a reply. Otherwise you are doing the same as ChatGPT - trying to hide a conversation or opinion you don’t agree with, just because you disagree. Do you think adult novels are immoral?
- baal80spam 4y ago
  I wonder what IS allowed? https://i.imgur.com/dIF48qI.png https://i.imgur.com/dIF48qI.png
  - nico 4y ago
    Is that real? Scary. Are we heading to a 1984 + Brave New World future?
    - numpad0 4y ago
      No, we are trying to escape from it, unsuccessfully.
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ren_engineer 4y ago

I feel like website owners are going to have to block Bing's crawler soon. They are effectively remixing content from multiple sites using AI to create knowledge panels that reduce clicks to the actual websites. Not sure how this dynamic will work long term if it keeps going, Bing and Google are going to kill off a lot of websites and then will have nothing to scrape for content

nico 4y ago
This might end up killing websites altogether. Also SEO spam and search.
sebzim4500 4y ago
I would be willing to bet a lot of money that no websites are going to block Google and Bing's crawlers over this. Less traffic is better than no traffic.
- nolok 4y ago
  Agreed, it's what happened during each of the major changes to google images. Every image site got their traffic tanked, but you still want to be in there.
rejectfinite 4y ago
Nobody goes to websites anymore. Its all apps for Youtube, Netflix and Tiktok.
pxtail 4y ago
Agree, I think that sooner or later brands and advertisers will need to pay to get results included directly in the models output, websites will be completely skipped. This will have a lot of repercussions - giants will probably have offer to put data in the model directly somehow but I doubt it will be free. I'm wondering if paywalling the content would be right move for someone who has popular website with curated, high quality knowledge and audience - this may work only for some time because discoverability will tank, traffic and current audience dry out..

yanis_t 4y ago

Wait, is it free?

IanCal 4y ago
Seems like you get 25 free faster generations per week.
- rejectfinite 4y ago
  Yes but its stil free after that, just slower.

Pigalowda 4y ago

This is pretty damn amazing. Very quick as well

IanCal 4y ago

I asked GPT a while back to pick a theme to explore in 5 art pieces, it picked mental health and one it decided it liked was "the weight of anxiety". SD didn't really capture it very well IMO, this does. Here's the results https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=GYBcJD6bIZkWMfxSlQDmpQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=cDjeiILjkoFPMLRiI%2b2wiQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=mL1T1rdD%2bhtTouQwaOrtTA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anxiety-medium3a-mixed-media-t/6419d7f377cd4976b51e0910609ae6eb?id=J0Lb67jQde%2f4FF9ZoXCDpg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/title3a-the-weight-of-anx... Now, you might say this is a bland or uninspired take, but I want you to step back a moment if you're thinking that. I asked a machine to brainstorm some ideas for a theme for an art show. Then told it to pick one it liked, and expand on it to five pieces with descriptions (I gave it a very short explanation about how to prompt an AI art generator). I then fed this directly into another tool that gave these images as a result. I did not tune the prompt, I didn't even account for the resulting description being the wrong kind of format or that it got cut off at the end. I'm not going to make any statements about replacing artists, I am just going to reflect on what a wild few months it's been in AI development.

Kiro 4y ago
Funny that the sentiment on HN around this is so toxic and hateful that you need to explicitly justify something that is obviously extremely cool.
- blowski 4y ago
  I don’t hate it - I love it. I’m just sick of reading that it’s the future, I mean a hype cycle. It’s going to take all our jobs, I mean it’s shit. It can beat a grandmaster at chess, I mean it can’t win at tik-tak-toe. It’s somewhere in the middle of all these things. It’s clearly groundbreaking technology that will be useful in many ways for a long time to come, but is still in early days with bugs to be fixed, and key features not yet imagined. The conversation here could just be a little more interesting and varied.

widerporst 4y ago

I asked Bing Chat why it says it can't create images for me. >The Bing Image Creator feature is a new feature that allows you to create images with your words. It is currently available in the United States, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom. So just one hour after Google Bard we have yet another senselessly geoblocked feature. edit: Okay, the separate link (https://www.bing.com/images/create https://www.bing.com/images/create) works, so I'm even more confused why Microsoft wouldn't allow access to this from Bing Chat.

seydor 4y ago
AUKUS rising
Ciantic 4y ago
Yes, the UI part is a mess. Now they have three UIs to search: old search UI, Chat like UI and image generation UI. To make this worse they are not consistent in anyway, sometimes when I scroll in the chat UI it throws me to useless search UI, and each seem to have different font sizes, colors etc. It feels like hodgepodge of things tacked together.
- indolering 4y ago
  That is because they are all alpha UIs built by teams that need the ability to iterate independently.
jjbinx007 4y ago
For those using it on the Bing mobile app, in the lower right corner click Apps then you'll see a link to the image creator. I've not played with it much but I'd say the quality and ease of use was better than Stable Diffusion but not quite on par with Midjourney.
- cubefox 4y ago
  Could you tell what the difference in language understanding is between Midourney and this AI (apparently Dall-E 3)? Visual quality is one thing, following the prompt is another. Example: A monk playing chess with a clown Two yellow books on top of three blue books Edit: I have the Bing mobile app (Android), but the image creator is not present in the "app" list on the lower right.

numpad0 4y ago

What is going on with Microsoft's recent hilariously bad localization? The website[0] in ja-JP says "Create Image Starting date / Words AI was used on:". And the tool is erroneously translated as "Image created by" at the top, while kept in the original "Image Creator" as proper noun at the bottom, which is inconsistent to say the least. This is how "You SIR winned a LOTTERY!!! Clame prise NOW!!!" pages look like, not how a Microsoft webpage looks like. Could you please just altogether stop trying to translate partial languages[2], and to validate translation by machine-back-translating to English, and perhaps stop assigning non-native speakers to translation tasks? Or is Microsoft that much unfocused in this market? 0: https://www.bing.com/images/create?FORM=GDPUP1 https://www.bing.com/images/create?FORM=GDPUP1 1: https://imgur.com/a/z4ghrsH https://imgur.com/a/z4ghrsH 2: Including texts separated from UI; "design languages" is a recognized term, if so, aren't geometric relationships and visual cues part of the language too? Am I not right?

brink 4y ago

I feel like I'm looking at aliens wearing people's skin. https://kota.is/qpxa1.png https://kota.is/qpxa1.png Nightmare inducing. I hate it. https://kota.is/X57J5.png https://kota.is/X57J5.png Ugh, this legit makes my stomach turn. https://kota.is/Q2hUI.jpg https://kota.is/Q2hUI.jpg It's like a bad amusement park ride; no thanks.

flangola7 4y ago
This is worse than SD 1
notahacker 4y ago
Not sure what's scarier, the faces or the message from Chtulu in the text! Unless these examples were cherry picked rare fails, I'm surprised it's so bad when there are a few of other generative models out there including ones by OpenAI which do human faces almost perfectly. Unless they're really throttling processing power used?
barking_biscuit 4y ago
The models at the moment don't do well on scenes where the faces are small and far away. I assume it's due to training on 256px by 256px images and not being able to capture enough detail in that, so the gens look horrible like this. At present, when using Stable Diffusion, you can address this as part of your workflow by fixing the faces with inpainting / upscaling. This can also be automated in a scriptable way using the Unprompted extension.
kossTKR 4y ago
Wow this is not production ready! What is microsoft doing? Look at midjourney 5's absolute perfection as an example.

rejectfinite 4y ago

This is HUGE. Actually amazing. Bing brought AI to the masses. Being Microsoft makes it more okay for companies to use etc in logos and shit

Ethan_Mick 4y ago

So, currently OpenAI's Dalle-2 gives me: "The server is overloaded right now, please try again later." I guess all their compute power is going to power this. And even now the Bing generation is taking a long time. Definitely seems like their having scaling issues at the moment.

bigotes43 4y ago
Had same problem just now. Seems like there was a pretty big outage [1] yesterday. One of the updates states: > "There is currently a Labs outage due to a failed database migration." Most likely the database migration intended to extend its capacity. The resolution tag states the following: > "We are continuing to investigate more ways to add capacity to DALL·E" So I guess we'll experience issues for the next days. Hope that explains it :) -------------------------------------- []: https://status.openai.com/incidents/4cckbrhr8hr0 https://status.openai.com/incidents/4cckbrhr8hr0
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Janica 4y ago
you can try the following: 1) Wait for some time and try again later: This error message usually indicates that the server is temporarily unable to process your request. You can try again later when the server is less busy. 2) Reduce the complexity of your image: The server may be overloaded due to the complexity of the image you are trying to generate. Try simplifying your image or reducing the resolution to reduce the load on the server. 3) Refresh the page: Sometimes, refreshing the page can help to clear any temporary issues with your browser or internet connection that might be causing the error. 4) Clear browser cache: Clearing your browser’s cache and cookies can help to fix various website-related issues in case the problem is occurring due to some conflict of your past history. 5) Use a different browser: If the issue persists, try using a different browser to access DALL-E-2. This can help to rule out any browser-specific issues. 6) Contact support: If the problem persists, you can contact the support team for DALL-E-2 to report the issue and get further assistance. Original source: https://www.smartmobsolution.com/solved-dall-e-2-the-server-is-overloaded-right-now-please-try-again-later/ https://www.smartmobsolution.com/solved-dall-e-2-the-server-...

es7 4y ago

I tried this out today and was very impressed by the results. Remember when DALLE came out less than a year ago and people were amazed by the avocado armchair? Between this and Midjourney v5, the quality of AI generated art is rapidly approaching human level and I can see it getting there very soon.

funstuff007 4y ago
I agree, it's impressive. But still not at the level of useful. For example, I would never use any of these generative art images in company ads or marketing materials. They're not in the uncanny valley, but closer to that than something one would commission from a designer.
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
Midjourney, DALL-E, and many of these generative AIs have reached human-level for a long time. The problem is - unlike a human - it's pretty hard to get them to do something close to what you have in mind. Sure, if you try a few dozen prompts - you'll probably eventually get something close to what you want. And considering the cost of this will approach free - it's going to be hard for artists to compete. I tried getting Midjourney to generate an image of a boy doing a high jump - and no matter what I tried - the boy is hurdling over the bar rather than high jumping over it. The quality of the images is great - human-level. But it's not what I want. I think we'll be stuck in this phase for a very long time, like self-driving cars.
- spacebanana7 4y ago
  I reckon we’ll move out of the prompt difficulty phase you mention simply when the context window gets big enough. If you were able to give midjourney a short textual instruction, a hand drawn sketch and a reference image from a human artist all together as a prompt then I’m pretty sure it could produce the image of a boy doing a high jump as you intent. We already see extended length multimedia prompts in GPT4 so it’s doesn’t seem like an impossible leap for midjourney/DALL-E etc
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zerr 4y ago

fwiw, I tried generating some SVG and XPM images with chatgpt - results were garbage.

cubefox 4y ago
GPT-3.5 or GPT-4?
- zerr 4y ago
  Both.
  - cubefox 4y ago
    Though probably GPT-4 was a lot better, right? The fact that it can do SVGs at all is already impressive, given that it has no visual ability to see what "looks right" in the final image. Similar to how GPT-4 apparently learned to play chess by just naming the moves, without ever having seen a chessboard.

93po 4y ago

it's fun to try to find flaws in content blocking. interesting datapoints: it will block some sexually suggestive prompts regarding women (a woman swimming in milk) but not for men (a man swimming in milk) changing milk to "almond milk" got the prompt accepted but then blocked before showing image refused any prompt with the word "bikini" (even for "on a statue") or "full body visible" (even if clothed) I got suspended for the prompt "full bodied man" after "full bodied woman" was blocked. Suspension says for violating content policy - I never asked a single time for anything explicitly sexual. Never asked for nudity, nakedness, sexuality, or anything like that. Never asked for a bikini or other revealing concept on a human. Only possible implications of sexual nature were "in milk" which it clearly found sexual, and "swimming" and only because it implies lots of skin showing. In one instance, it showed a topless woman swimming, but breasts were blurred and had skin-colored nipples and basically looked like Barbie, and had shadows where nipples would go. I am guessing it checks content two ways: both in the prompt, and then a second time on the actual generated image before displaying it. Which is smart. I am guessing my suspension was based on blocked images, regardless of what I was asking for. It's interesting that it also seemingly censors anything it detects as looking like nudity, but also in one case still displayed the censored version. or maybe it just happened to generate something that looked censored and therefore didn't trigger the nudity check

dgant 4y ago
Did the suspension carry a duration?
- 93po 4y ago
  It didn't specify one. It gave me the option to contest it, I did, and it restored access a few hours later.
ElijahLynn 4y ago
It blocked "a woman wearing a flower dress massaging a pregnant woman in a room with a view of the ocean and the sunset" that I was trying to generate for a client who offers pre-natal massage, I removed "pregnant" and it worked.

izzydata 4y ago

It seems strange to me to put this into a search engine. What is the relationship between these two web apps? I suspect Microsoft is trying to do anything imaginable to drive people to bing search for ad revenue, but this one seems a bit shoehorned.

creativenolo 4y ago
To me, you need something so you search for it. I need an image, I will search to get it.
- izzydata 4y ago
  Is creating an image a substitute for searching for an existing image?
  - michaelteter 4y ago
    It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).
    - UncleEntity 4y ago
      I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find. Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?
      - symlinkk 4y ago
        Memes
      - michaelteter 4y ago
        Imagine a blogger writing about some topic, and they have some ideas of concepts they want to find images that represent. It's possible to sift through tons of stock photography and maybe find one; but that takes a lot of time, and it sometimes ends with an expensive license cost. Instead, with good prompting, you can not request a "photo" which matches your exact desires... close enough to perfectly that your audience won't notice or won't care about the last 1% that is imperfect. And like the early days of online music, not only will people relax and accept imperfections (bad aliasing, mediocre sound quality), they may even become so accustomed to it that they will someday intentionally inject similar imperfections into creations so those feel more "natural" (comfortable based on the audiences' experiences).

loudandskittish 4y ago

Huh, this one actually seems to work... I ask for pixel art and it gives me pixel art (Stable Diffusion and DALL-E keep giving me needlepoint).

cubefox 4y ago

This could indeed be a wrapper for something like Dall-E 2. Like the latter, they seem to occasionally force some images to be (what US Americans consider) "diverse", i.e. making figures black even when it makes no sense. The results can be quite disturbing: https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait-by-thomas-kinkade/641a15c212eb4fdabb22959917c0174d?id=YJb6tv9Cg6y66d3ASrFKiA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/princess-peach2c-portrait...

dragonwriter 4y ago
You have to be really racist to find the racial coding of that image to be in, like, the top 10 most disturbing things. Like, anatomy?
- cubefox 4y ago
  Yeah, anatomy. The figure doesn't even have a mouth.
baq 4y ago
As a non-American please could someone explain what exactly should I be disturbed about? I’ve no idea. edit: Missed the prompt. Yeah not what I’d expect Princess Peach to be.
- sangnoir 4y ago
  Is it disturbing though?
  - baq 4y ago
    To me? No, it looks wrong, but not really disturbing. Which is why I asked the question - maybe I’m lacking awareness of a particular piece of American culture which should make me disturbed?
    - solarmist 4y ago

smrtinsert 4y ago

This is absolutely nuts. You cannot keep up with it.

smrtinsert 4y ago

How much longer can an initiative like midjourney continue when people like Microsoft are directly entering the fray? I'll still use Stable Diffusion locally though - there's nothing like avoiding the potential walled garden/subscription trap.

barking_biscuit 4y ago
I dunno... Midjourney v5 is pretty insane with the level of realism it offers. They seem really focused on training their models in a specific way to achieve particular results that their users are after.

Accacin 4y ago

I'm definitely not a hater of these technologies and I'd actually like to play around with them. I'm more concerned with how these language models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be. If Chrome gets tied with Bard and Edge gets tied with Chatbot, Image Creator, etc. where's that leave Firefox and other "niche" browsers?

jddj 4y ago
Hopefully with a means of passing page content and browsing capability to your local openGPT / GPTnu / whatever the open models end up being called
a2128 4y ago
I think this kind of browser tie-in should be illegal. I've been using Bing Chatbot for the past few weeks on Firefox by using the user-agent switcher extension to make it think I'm on Edge. It works flawlessly. So there's 0 technical reason for requiring Edge, it's all just a weird tactic to get people using Edge. Like a fast food drive-thru that only serves Mercedes-Benz cars.
titaniczero 4y ago
I would be more concerned if we don't get to the point of decent local models for every task, because of the power these companies would have
TacticalCoder 4y ago
> models seem to be tied to a certain companies' browser and what the implications of this might be If you've got the budget buy a 7950X / 64 GB of RAM / 4090 GPU (about $4K ?) and run StableDiffusion + other free tools locally. It's just plain amazing. It's plenty quick and there are more and more tools every day that passes by. I've been demo'ed SD+LoRA by someone who knows who to additionally train the model: it's jaw dropping. And it's not tied to a company. And it's not politically correct if you don't want it to be. And it's not sniffing your every keystrokes.
- barking_biscuit 4y ago

cubefox 4y ago

It seems clear that they use Dall-E 3 here. It is far superior to 2.

SailingSperm 4y ago

Seems a little sensitive... Prompt: "Taiwan" === ''' This prompt is being reviewed We're taking a closer look to make sure this prompt doesn't conflict with our content policy. '''

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JoeVa 4y ago

One Click and Bing AI chick #HOE! https://tinyurl.com/JoeVaAI https://tinyurl.com/JoeVaAI

gl2sbingimage 4y ago

How do you delete an image created in Bing Image Creator?

ribtin 4y ago

I experimented with Bing to create a cover for my novel. I prompted it to create: "a child voodoo priest" And got a lot of interesting results: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.0R0NBSEhAJk__g2djOhW https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.0R0NBSEhAJk__g2djOhW https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.XoAiY81ifmW_SjeHLQMm https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.XoAiY81ifmW_SjeHLQMm But then I said that the voodoo priest should be "female" and got told that it went against the content policy. I tried "woman", "girl", "lady". But all went against the content policy. And when I tried to say that the voodoo priest should be "scary" instead, I got my account suspended.