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A video? This is the better link https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/
by rurban 4y ago
A video? This is the better link https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/
- isodev 4y agoThank you!
- heywhatupboys 4y ago> Gingerich told us that the most widely-deployed GPL-covered software in Deere machinery is Linux. "As with most Linux distributions, it uses several other programs under copyleft (i.e. right to repair) licenses as well," he said. what?
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- TheLoafOfBread 4y agoI see it as very hypocritical - Yeah we are ignoring licenses of others, but I dare you to install into "your" tractor a part which is not DRM signed by John Deere.
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- ryukafalz 4y agoSomewhat confused reporting, but it sounds like Gingerich was probably referring to "Linux" colloquially, as in a Linux distribution. That would in most cases include other GPL software such as GNU coreutils, or possibly BusyBox. (And then The Register quoted that as Linux itself including other GPL'd programs, which isn't quite right.)
- mattl 4y agoMeanwhile https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/mar/16/john-deere-gpl-violations/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/mar/16/john-deere-gpl-vi... doesn't mention Linux.
- LoganDark 4y ago"right to repair licenses"? GPL was never designed for right to repair, but rather right to extend and modify, i.e. Open Source.
- pabs3 4y agoI like to say the GPL gives me the right to repair software.
- asddubs 4y agoright to fix bugs
- fsckboy 4y ago> GPL was never designed for right to repair, but rather right to extend and modify no, GPL was designed for right to modify source code with no restrictions on what you could use the modified code for, which would include repair.
- LoganDark 4y agoI'm objecting to it being called a "right to repair license". It's not a right to repair license. It's a copyleft open-source license. That just happens to be extremely useful for repair because it requires being able to install new versions and have them function, but it isn't a "right to repair license" because it does a lot more than that. :(
- fsckboy 4y agobut it explicitly says no restrictions can be placed on what you do with the code, so it is entirely correct to say it's a "right to do X" snowclone-license.
- tsimionescu 4y agoActually, GPL was originally motivated by Stallman wanting to repair a printer at MIT that had a software bug.
- justinclift 4y agoThat article has no mention of Louis Rossman in it.
- rurban 4y agoSure. Because Louis Rossman has nothing to do with the potential/upcoming GPL enfringement claim to John Deere. It's linux and several other GPL utitities they are using, but nothing with a Copyright (c) Louis Rossman, so he cannot sue. Nor does he own such a tractor. The FSF, the Linux copyright holders or tractor owners can sue. Gingerich for the SFC is bugging them for years. Just a misleading title to drive traffic to his video blog.
- justinclift 4y agoThe misleading title seems to have been created by the submitter of the video to HN, as the video on Youtube is titled "Holding corporate criminals ACCOUNTABLE; it's about time we start".
- OJFord 4y agoThey made a factual error, presumably accidentally, but I'm glad they didn't go with that original one, personally. Better then, perhaps: > John Deere might be sued for GPL violation - Louis Rossman [video] (or even 'should', since that's his angle, not neutral factual reporting)
- dehrmann 4y agoI was wondering how he'd have standing unless some of the code was his.
- pabs3 4y agoI expect he is just planning to fund either SFC (as representatives of Linux copyright holders) or a farmer (as a third-party beneficiary of the GPL) in order to bring such a lawsuit. PS: for the third-party beneficiary option, see the SFC v Vizio case. https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html