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> Micro-USB Honestly??

by aacid 4y ago

wyldfire 4y ago
Probably saved a good $0.45 using a cheaper header. :(
- thrown123098 4y ago
  Or it was the only one they clild get in volume. The last 3 years have been merry he'll on supply chains.
  - johnwalkr 4y ago
    Connectors, especially ones made by multiple manufacturers in the same footprint (including usb-c)really weren't hit hard by this.
  - bayindirh 4y ago
    This is an enterprise/industrial IoT board with CANBus and RS232. These people carry RS232 over Ethernet and call it a revolution. I’m sure that finding MiniUSB is much more easier on that setting and ecosystem.
  - wolrah 4y ago
    > Or it was the only one they clild get in volume. The last 3 years have been merry he'll on supply chains. This is Asus. They make a phone that has two USB-C ports, plus a variety of mobile accessories that all have one. They also make laptops, desktops, and motherboards that generally have 2-4 of them. I'd be shocked if the sales of the entire Tinkerboard line added up to even the mobile products alone, much less the PC lines.
wolrah 4y ago
Amen to this. I wish the USB-IF would officially deprecate the entire mini and micro line, stating that they are not allowed to be used and will not be certified compliant in new hardware designs unless the new design is intended to be a physically identical drop-in replacement for an older design that used those ports. There is no good excuse for these ports' continued use in new designs, just penny pinching nonsense. Host-side ports can be full size A or C, device side ports can be full size B or C, anything else is just being cheap.
- kube-system 4y ago
  USB-IF should be forced to use PCs equipped only with Micro A and Mini A ports. And to connect their peripherals, they must first dig through a large bag of Micro/Mini B cables to find a single Micro/Mini A cable. Although that might be so cruel that it violates the Geneva Convention.
tlavoie 4y ago
I see people complain about Micro-USB in various places, and am not quite sure what the problem is. You're connecting to some relatively small, low-power device, not powering a beefy laptop. Is it problematic to have too many cables in the drawer that fit?
- imtringued 4y ago
  >You're connecting to some relatively small, low-power device, not powering a beefy laptop. Micro USB doesn't deliver enough power, especially if you plug USB devices into an SBC.
- kube-system 4y ago
  It's an older standard, and if nothing else, the reversibility of type-c is worth the 10 cents. And because one of the ports is USB OTG, one of the intended uses is for a micro B connector as the host connector. Which is a misuse of the originally intended function of that connector anyway.
  - tlavoie 4y ago
    Thanks, just seems like much ado about nothing, other than that last part. I know I've got a wealth of devices that have the various formats, mostly micro. Their functionality still seems fine, so the anguish that pops up from time to time seems a bit much.

> Micro-USB Honestly??

by aacid 4y ago

> Micro-USB Honestly??

wyldfire 4y ago

Probably saved a good $0.45 using a cheaper header. :(

thrown123098 4y ago
Or it was the only one they clild get in volume. The last 3 years have been merry he'll on supply chains.
- johnwalkr 4y ago
  Connectors, especially ones made by multiple manufacturers in the same footprint (including usb-c)really weren't hit hard by this.
- bayindirh 4y ago
  This is an enterprise/industrial IoT board with CANBus and RS232. These people carry RS232 over Ethernet and call it a revolution. I’m sure that finding MiniUSB is much more easier on that setting and ecosystem.
- wolrah 4y ago
  > Or it was the only one they clild get in volume. The last 3 years have been merry he'll on supply chains. This is Asus. They make a phone that has two USB-C ports, plus a variety of mobile accessories that all have one. They also make laptops, desktops, and motherboards that generally have 2-4 of them. I'd be shocked if the sales of the entire Tinkerboard line added up to even the mobile products alone, much less the PC lines.

wolrah 4y ago

Amen to this. I wish the USB-IF would officially deprecate the entire mini and micro line, stating that they are not allowed to be used and will not be certified compliant in new hardware designs unless the new design is intended to be a physically identical drop-in replacement for an older design that used those ports. There is no good excuse for these ports' continued use in new designs, just penny pinching nonsense. Host-side ports can be full size A or C, device side ports can be full size B or C, anything else is just being cheap.

kube-system 4y ago
USB-IF should be forced to use PCs equipped only with Micro A and Mini A ports. And to connect their peripherals, they must first dig through a large bag of Micro/Mini B cables to find a single Micro/Mini A cable. Although that might be so cruel that it violates the Geneva Convention.

tlavoie 4y ago

I see people complain about Micro-USB in various places, and am not quite sure what the problem is. You're connecting to some relatively small, low-power device, not powering a beefy laptop. Is it problematic to have too many cables in the drawer that fit?

imtringued 4y ago
>You're connecting to some relatively small, low-power device, not powering a beefy laptop. Micro USB doesn't deliver enough power, especially if you plug USB devices into an SBC.
kube-system 4y ago
It's an older standard, and if nothing else, the reversibility of type-c is worth the 10 cents. And because one of the ports is USB OTG, one of the intended uses is for a micro B connector as the host connector. Which is a misuse of the originally intended function of that connector anyway.
- tlavoie 4y ago
  Thanks, just seems like much ado about nothing, other than that last part. I know I've got a wealth of devices that have the various formats, mostly micro. Their functionality still seems fine, so the anguish that pops up from time to time seems a bit much.