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9000 jobs at one company is quite small compared to the overall industry and compared to the global shortfall in tech jobs. In Germany alone there's a 780k tech

9000 jobs at one company is quite small compared to the overall industry and compared to the global shortfall in tech jobs. In Germany alone there's a 780k tech worker shortage over the next 3 years[1]. It ebbs and flows in particular companies and particular regions, but the trend is still upward globally. [1] https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-digital/our-insights/tech-talent-tectonics-ten-new-realities-for-finding-keeping-and-developing-talent https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-digital/our-i...

nradov 4y ago
There is no actual shortage of tech workers in Germany or any other capitalist country. It's just that some employers don't want to pay the market rate or provide training.
kyawzazaw 4y ago
yeah but that's Germany
- tough 4y ago
  You can remotely work for a German company tho. They even will accept english if you're a good developer as lingua franca instead of german. YMMV
  - erispoe 4y ago
    With a CS or engineering degree, it's also very easy to immigrate to Germany on a blue card, with a relative short path to permanent residency and citizenship.
glial 4y ago
How does an American find a job in Germany willing to hire them? I'd jump at the opportunity.
bitL 4y ago
If you want to get paid $40/h then there are many jobs in Germany. If you want to get paid $150/h, there are almost none.
- ProZsolt 4y ago
  Is 84k a bad salary? I like money, the more, the better, but I can live comfortably with that amount of money.
  - bitL 4y ago
    Imagine rent around 1000-1500 EUR, 42% taxes and inflation making basic food prices and energy go up 100-200% and you suddenly live paycheck to paycheck with no social life and no ability to own home. It's much better to live in e.g. Dubai/Romania (0% tax) or Poland (low tax) and work remotely for German companies as a consultant than to move to Germany.
slt2021 4y ago
why would any IT immigrant want to work in Germany for peanuts pay and high taxes, if they can get higher pay in Switzerland/UK/USA ?
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  Because Germany has good living standards in many cities and salary is not as bad as you indicate. I would consider moving to Germany before considering the UK. I certainly wouldn't ever move to the US. The only place you mentioned I would rank above Germany is Switzerland.
- red-iron-pine 4y ago
  Better health care. Less Trump and Trump-adjacent. Lower chance of having your kids shot at school. An actual culture instead of whatever capitalism wants to shove down your throat. Unions that work. Way better transportation in big cities. Soccer teams that people care about. A few trainrides away from a holiday in Greece or Croatia (or France, or Norway, et al).
  - slt2021 4y ago
    Wait until you move to Germany and hear about Osterreich (former east germany communists) - a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do. There are like hundreds of thousands of ex-USSR emigres who still love russia and support it. regarding the rest - with german pay you wont have money to travel across Europe. your best bet will be "backbacker" style travel on budget - which is hard to do with kids. and dont get me at the quality of their daycares....
    - p_j_w 4y ago
      >a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do. Unlike in the USA, these people in Germany don't get their insane voices boosted by the ballot box equivalent of Affirmative Action (aka the Senate and Electoral College). Their views have remained far from the PM's office.

nradov 4y ago

There is no actual shortage of tech workers in Germany or any other capitalist country. It's just that some employers don't want to pay the market rate or provide training.

kyawzazaw 4y ago

yeah but that's Germany

tough 4y ago
You can remotely work for a German company tho. They even will accept english if you're a good developer as lingua franca instead of german. YMMV
- erispoe 4y ago
  With a CS or engineering degree, it's also very easy to immigrate to Germany on a blue card, with a relative short path to permanent residency and citizenship.

glial 4y ago

How does an American find a job in Germany willing to hire them? I'd jump at the opportunity.

bitL 4y ago

If you want to get paid $40/h then there are many jobs in Germany. If you want to get paid $150/h, there are almost none.

ProZsolt 4y ago
Is 84k a bad salary? I like money, the more, the better, but I can live comfortably with that amount of money.
- bitL 4y ago
  Imagine rent around 1000-1500 EUR, 42% taxes and inflation making basic food prices and energy go up 100-200% and you suddenly live paycheck to paycheck with no social life and no ability to own home. It's much better to live in e.g. Dubai/Romania (0% tax) or Poland (low tax) and work remotely for German companies as a consultant than to move to Germany.

slt2021 4y ago

why would any IT immigrant want to work in Germany for peanuts pay and high taxes, if they can get higher pay in Switzerland/UK/USA ?

surgical_fire 4y ago
Because Germany has good living standards in many cities and salary is not as bad as you indicate. I would consider moving to Germany before considering the UK. I certainly wouldn't ever move to the US. The only place you mentioned I would rank above Germany is Switzerland.
red-iron-pine 4y ago
Better health care. Less Trump and Trump-adjacent. Lower chance of having your kids shot at school. An actual culture instead of whatever capitalism wants to shove down your throat. Unions that work. Way better transportation in big cities. Soccer teams that people care about. A few trainrides away from a holiday in Greece or Croatia (or France, or Norway, et al).
- slt2021 4y ago
  Wait until you move to Germany and hear about Osterreich (former east germany communists) - a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do. There are like hundreds of thousands of ex-USSR emigres who still love russia and support it. regarding the rest - with german pay you wont have money to travel across Europe. your best bet will be "backbacker" style travel on budget - which is hard to do with kids. and dont get me at the quality of their daycares....
  - p_j_w 4y ago
    >a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do. Unlike in the USA, these people in Germany don't get their insane voices boosted by the ballot box equivalent of Affirmative Action (aka the Senate and Electoral College). Their views have remained far from the PM's office.