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I live in Berlin, within the Ring (for those familiar with the city). I don't own a car, I have multiple carsharing subscriptions and I have two children, 1 and

I live in Berlin, within the Ring (for those familiar with the city). I don't own a car, I have multiple carsharing subscriptions and I have two children, 1 and 4. We have a cargo bike to move them around and do groceries, almost in any weather (as long as it doesn't rain), otherwise we have public transport as a backup.

nonethewiser 4y ago
Where do you live for those of us unfamiliar with the city? Paris? More on topic - Bikes make a lot of sense in the city but if you add kids to the equation the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach IMO.
- alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
  Reference is the s-bahn ring: https://oxyi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/map-of-berlin-commuter-rail-s-bahn-stations-lines-with-s-bahn-ring-berlin-karte-1024x724.jpg https://oxyi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/map-of-berlin-co...
- alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
  > the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach Check out chart 2: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk-2021/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk-2021-data https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casua...
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    To share with everyone else, chart 2 shows 12x more fatalities per mile traveled for bikes compared to cars.
    - alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
      On the other hand, is shows that pedestrians and cyclists have the same rate of fatalities per mile traveled. So better to not walk or cycle and just stick to your car /s
      - nonethewiser 4y ago
        It absolutely is more safe to put a child in a car in a car seat than to put them on your bike. I wouldn’t even do that outside a city, on a quiet paved bike path.
- thinkindie 4y ago
  it says right at the beginning "I live in Berlin".
- joaonmatos 4y ago
  The Berlin S-Bahn Ring is a looping railway around the city center. It excludes some higher density areas in the north of the city and includes some less populated areas in the south of the city, but being inside the ring is the most accepted benchmark of living in the city core.

nonethewiser 4y ago

Where do you live for those of us unfamiliar with the city? Paris? More on topic - Bikes make a lot of sense in the city but if you add kids to the equation the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach IMO.

alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
Reference is the s-bahn ring: https://oxyi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/map-of-berlin-commuter-rail-s-bahn-stations-lines-with-s-bahn-ring-berlin-karte-1024x724.jpg https://oxyi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/map-of-berlin-co...
alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
> the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach Check out chart 2: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk-2021/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk-2021-data https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casua...
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  To share with everyone else, chart 2 shows 12x more fatalities per mile traveled for bikes compared to cars.
  - alkjsdlkjasd 4y ago
    On the other hand, is shows that pedestrians and cyclists have the same rate of fatalities per mile traveled. So better to not walk or cycle and just stick to your car /s
    - nonethewiser 4y ago
      It absolutely is more safe to put a child in a car in a car seat than to put them on your bike. I wouldn’t even do that outside a city, on a quiet paved bike path.
thinkindie 4y ago
it says right at the beginning "I live in Berlin".
joaonmatos 4y ago
The Berlin S-Bahn Ring is a looping railway around the city center. It excludes some higher density areas in the north of the city and includes some less populated areas in the south of the city, but being inside the ring is the most accepted benchmark of living in the city core.