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==Occupations with no labeled exposed tasks== Agricultural Equipment Operators Athletes and Sports Competitors Automotive Glass Installers and Repairers Bus

by oidar 4y ago

==Occupations with no labeled exposed tasks== Agricultural Equipment Operators Athletes and Sports Competitors Automotive Glass Installers and Repairers Bus and Truck Mechanics and Diesel Engine Specialists Cement Masons and Concrete Finishers Cooks, Short Order Cutters and Trimmers, Hand Derrick Operators, Oil and Gas Dining Room and Cafeteria Attendants and Bartender Helpers Dishwashers Dredge Operators Electrical Power-Line Installers and Repairers Excavating and Loading Machine and Dragline Operators, Surface Mining Floor Layers, Except Carpet, Wood, and Hard Tiles Foundry Mold and Coremakers Helpers–Brickmasons, Blockmasons, Stonemasons, and Tile and Marble Setters Helpers–Carpenters Helpers–Painters, Paperhangers, Plasterers, and Stucco Masons Helpers–Pipelayers, Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters Helpers–Roofers Meat, Poultry, and Fish Cutters and Trimmers Motorcycle Mechanics Paving, Surfacing, and Tamping Equipment Operators Pile Driver Operators Pourers and Casters, Metal Rail-Track Laying and Maintenance Equipment Operators Refractory Materials Repairers, Except Brickmasons Roof Bolters, Mining Roustabouts, Oil and Gas Slaughterers and Meat Packers Stonemasons Tapers Tire Repairers and Changers Wellhead Pumpers

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ygouzerh 4y ago
Unfortunately, the great majority of these jobs are already being automated with basic robotics
- Kiro 4y ago
  How is that unfortunate?
  - huuhee3 4y ago
    Mass unemployment without adequate social safety net would be unfortunate.
    - bulbosaur123 4y ago
      Unfortunate in short term, but beneficial in long term.
      - arlcode 4y ago
        How so? It seems like masses of people locked out of any economic growth and with no perspective are a recipe for desaster if you ask me. That's the foundation on which unrest and rebellions are built and those are usually not pleasant affairs for most people. I'm not saying that it will come to this.
        tjpnz 4y ago
        If vast swathes of the population are thrown onto the scrapheap in a relatively short period of time it absolutely would come to that. The ruling class would be smashed (literally and figuratively) and you'll wake up in the morning to discover that our form of capitalism has ceased to exist.
      - tap-snap-or-nap 4y ago
        Don't know which country is happily giving out redundant workers food, clothing and shelter for free
  - ben_w 4y ago
    We don't yet have UBI (and worse, countries are raising pension ages, which is the closest thing we currently have to a UBI) so everything everywhere being automated all at once is going to be messy.
  - AverageDude 4y ago
    Unemployment —-> Crime —-> Police states —-> Societal collapse —-> Civil war like situation —-> Economy poof —-> Feudalism
- fxj 4y ago
  Some of them, some will never be. E.g.: * Athletes and Sports Competitors * Motorcycle Mechanics * Stonemasons only to give some examples, where roboters are almost impossible.
- 360macky 4y ago
  Definitely
BoorishBears 4y ago
I feel like everyone is trying to draw very linear conclusions about what LLMs will affect, almost as if it's a circle that will be cut out of the market. But if we really get to the point where programmers can be replaced with LLMs, I expect something closer to swiss cheese: For example, if you're a meat packer, maybe you work someplace that doesn't want to pay for a fancy new machine that can do your job... But a massive plummeting in the cost of software paired with a massive spike in the rate at which we develop things means machines will cost a lot less. Who knows what kind of material sciences advancements we'll see for example. At that point the margins may be razor thin, but automation will start to work in places where it couldn't be done profitably before. I think things get a little dystopian from there, since I'd expect the employers still holding onto humans to essentially be holding all the cards. What good is a union when the "scab" is a machine with a one time cost? - (but again, this is all assuming LLMs reach a place that is seriously earthshattering)
- eggsmediumrare 4y ago
  The other factor is unemployed office workers competing for the remaining jobs and thus driving down wages.

by oidar 4y ago

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ygouzerh 4y ago

Unfortunately, the great majority of these jobs are already being automated with basic robotics

Kiro 4y ago
How is that unfortunate?
- huuhee3 4y ago
  Mass unemployment without adequate social safety net would be unfortunate.
  - bulbosaur123 4y ago
    Unfortunate in short term, but beneficial in long term.
    - arlcode 4y ago
      How so? It seems like masses of people locked out of any economic growth and with no perspective are a recipe for desaster if you ask me. That's the foundation on which unrest and rebellions are built and those are usually not pleasant affairs for most people. I'm not saying that it will come to this.
      - tjpnz 4y ago
        If vast swathes of the population are thrown onto the scrapheap in a relatively short period of time it absolutely would come to that. The ruling class would be smashed (literally and figuratively) and you'll wake up in the morning to discover that our form of capitalism has ceased to exist.
    - tap-snap-or-nap 4y ago
      Don't know which country is happily giving out redundant workers food, clothing and shelter for free
- ben_w 4y ago
  We don't yet have UBI (and worse, countries are raising pension ages, which is the closest thing we currently have to a UBI) so everything everywhere being automated all at once is going to be messy.
- AverageDude 4y ago
  Unemployment —-> Crime —-> Police states —-> Societal collapse —-> Civil war like situation —-> Economy poof —-> Feudalism
fxj 4y ago
Some of them, some will never be. E.g.: * Athletes and Sports Competitors * Motorcycle Mechanics * Stonemasons only to give some examples, where roboters are almost impossible.
360macky 4y ago
Definitely

BoorishBears 4y ago

I feel like everyone is trying to draw very linear conclusions about what LLMs will affect, almost as if it's a circle that will be cut out of the market. But if we really get to the point where programmers can be replaced with LLMs, I expect something closer to swiss cheese: For example, if you're a meat packer, maybe you work someplace that doesn't want to pay for a fancy new machine that can do your job... But a massive plummeting in the cost of software paired with a massive spike in the rate at which we develop things means machines will cost a lot less. Who knows what kind of material sciences advancements we'll see for example. At that point the margins may be razor thin, but automation will start to work in places where it couldn't be done profitably before. I think things get a little dystopian from there, since I'd expect the employers still holding onto humans to essentially be holding all the cards. What good is a union when the "scab" is a machine with a one time cost? - (but again, this is all assuming LLMs reach a place that is seriously earthshattering)

eggsmediumrare 4y ago
The other factor is unemployed office workers competing for the remaining jobs and thus driving down wages.