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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
by colesantiago 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
- whywhywouldyou 4y agoDid you read the website at all? It discusses that taking a screenshot or adding any other amount of blur, noise, etc isn't a way to circumvent this method.
- colesantiago 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
- msm_ 4y agoI also don't see how analog hole is relevant. This is not some novel DRM style, but a way to slightly modify the original image such that it's less useful for AI model training.
- colesantiago 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
- mplewis 4y agoThat doesn’t make sense in the context of this tool.
- dymk 4y agoThen you either don't understand the tool, how generative AI models work, or what the analog loophole is
- usrbinbash 4y agoIt makes sense because the protective mechanism depends on the AI ingesting the picture as-is, with the added noise. If the ingestion workflow alters the picture sufficiently, the protection could be lost, same as DRM qualities are lost if someone alters the data-stream by recording what is shown on the screen of the display device.
- bawolff 4y agoBut this is an analog protection mechanism.
- dymk 4y agoIf your human eye can look at the post-Galze'd work and understand what it is, so will the (next) AI model
- bawolff 4y agoMaybe, but that is irrelavent as to whether or not the analog hole is a relavent attack. [It should be noted that the comment 3 up the chain i was replying to got edited so my response 2 up the chain makes less sense now]
- refulgentis 4y agoIt’s hype, quite literally very impossible.
- bawolff 4y agoWhat's impossible about it? There have even been other drm systems that have fairly succesful at attacking analog hole, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinavia Of course, no solution prevents everything,but preventing a specific system from using the data in a way that is hard to get around is highly possible.
- montag 4y agoGreat link, in any case.
- dragonwriter 4y agoThere’s no analog hole, because they are defacing the image. OTOH, that’s also one of the problems with it for art that is intended to be displayed to humans (they minimize this descriptively, but the full-size examples I’ve seen are bad.)