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Yeah I'm saying they should be grateful this company ever existed

woodruffw 4y ago
Two points: 1. Being angry at an action doesn’t make someone an ingrate. You can both be grateful and angry; I’d say it’s even common to be both. 2. Meta has had no meaningful impact on my software niche, or many others’. Their only real impact on me has been radicalizing my older family members and firing a few of my friends. They aren’t entitled to any particular gratitude for that.
- super256 4y ago
  I don't think you get radicalized by social networks alone. Usually things like economic distress, mental health issues, (missing?) social life irl are much bigger factors here. But yes, if you are already leaning towards it, the internet can probably reinforce any kind of extreme beliefs, as they usually provide simple solutions for complex issues.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    I understand the distinction you’re making, but I think the “radicalization” characterization is appropriate: my experience is that Facebook-exposed relatives place both more and more extreme value on policies that they might otherwise have. Were they primed by other sources of media and culture exposure? Absolutely; what distinguishes Facebook is its place in the timeline, and the abundance of evidence that radicalization broadly tracks with social media engagement.
    - acdha 4y ago
      Yeah, Facebook really turned things up in my experience with the constant 24x7 promotion of increasingly extreme content. Fox News has limited hours in the day to produce new content and some editorial restraint, whereas Facebook would cheerfully take someone who was normally at, say, turn of the century WSJ-level conservative content and feed them stuff which Limbaugh wouldn’t have touched. After a while, they start thinking that’s normal.
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rambojohnson 4y ago
It is patently evident that you resemble a Zuckerberg shill who frequents technology discussion boards, disseminating tangential remarks extolling gratitude for a corporation that is, in essence, detrimental and morally unsound.

Two points: 1. Being angry at an action doesn’t make someone an ingrate. You can both be grateful and angry; I’d say it’s even common to be both. 2. Meta has had no meaningful impact on my software niche, or many others’. Their only real impact on me has been radicalizing my older family members and firing a few of my friends. They aren’t entitled to any particular gratitude for that.

super256 4y ago
I don't think you get radicalized by social networks alone. Usually things like economic distress, mental health issues, (missing?) social life irl are much bigger factors here. But yes, if you are already leaning towards it, the internet can probably reinforce any kind of extreme beliefs, as they usually provide simple solutions for complex issues.
- woodruffw 4y ago
  I understand the distinction you’re making, but I think the “radicalization” characterization is appropriate: my experience is that Facebook-exposed relatives place both more and more extreme value on policies that they might otherwise have. Were they primed by other sources of media and culture exposure? Absolutely; what distinguishes Facebook is its place in the timeline, and the abundance of evidence that radicalization broadly tracks with social media engagement.
  - acdha 4y ago
    Yeah, Facebook really turned things up in my experience with the constant 24x7 promotion of increasingly extreme content. Fox News has limited hours in the day to produce new content and some editorial restraint, whereas Facebook would cheerfully take someone who was normally at, say, turn of the century WSJ-level conservative content and feed them stuff which Limbaugh wouldn’t have touched. After a while, they start thinking that’s normal.

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rambojohnson 4y ago

It is patently evident that you resemble a Zuckerberg shill who frequents technology discussion boards, disseminating tangential remarks extolling gratitude for a corporation that is, in essence, detrimental and morally unsound.