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So, Team Reagan left the hostages there longer, sold arms to an enemy and subverted the POTUS - why is there a statue of that !@# at Washington National Airport

So, Team Reagan left the hostages there longer, sold arms to an enemy and subverted the POTUS - why is there a statue of that !@# at Washington National Airport?????

kadoban 4y ago
Because Republicans are not at all interested in the failings of their leaders.
- lockhouse 4y ago
  That’s not a quality that is unique to Republicans.
  - funstuff007 4y ago
    I agree that it's a reasonable approximation to say the Republicans are the bad guys, but that in no way makes it true that the Democrats are the good guys. In fact, the more odious the R's behave the worse the D's can do say and still say, "well, at least we're not them.".
    - lockhouse 4y ago
      Life isn’t a Marvel comic book. There aren’t good guys and bad guys in Washington, DC, just corrupt self serving politicians on both sides of the aisle that say what they think their constituents want to hear while doing the bidding of their campaign donors.
      - michaelmrose 4y ago
        In the last 55 years they've had Nixon Reagan Bush Sr Bush Jr and Trump. Compare this to Carter Clinton Obama and Biden. 4 of the 5 on team red blatantly attempted to subvert Democracy. One legalized indefinite detention and torture and Another outright attempted to take the government after losing. They might as well be comic book villains.
        lapcat 4y ago
        > 4 of the 5 on team red blatantly attempted to subvert Democracy Wait, which 1 do you think didn't?
        michaelmrose 4y ago
        It's possible I'm less aware of the exploits of Bush Sr due to being very young then and it not being as notable as Nixon or Reagan.
        lapcat 4y ago
        First of all, Bush was Director of the CIA before he was VP, which is bad enough by itself. (Operation Condor, etc.) Bush was also close to Bill Casey (mentioned in the article), who ran Reagan's campaign, recruited Bush for the ticket, and became Reagan's Director of the CIA. Bush and Casey were both knee deep in Iran-Contra, a massive subversion of democracy and constitutional crisis in which the Reagan administration disobeyed an act of Congress. When Bush left office, he pardoned a bunch of Iran-Contra conspirators, thus covering his own ass too.
        rendall 4y ago
        There won't be any reasonable, principled government in the US while people voluntarily divide themselves into these two arbitrary tribes and shout about how they are better than the other side. People actually believing this is how the Duopoly is maintained. If you can take a hard look at your own side, a really hard look, you'll see rot there too. Better to see it, know it, be aware of it. Support those who oppose it irrespective of the arbitrary label they choose to call themselves.
        atoav 4y ago
        Karl Popper described democracy as a system that is not defined by giving you the chance of getting people you like into power, but by giving you the chance to remove those you disliked. A duopoly that is this far apart in terms of ideology and goals is preventing that part. What needs to happen for a convinced Dem/Republican to vote for the opposing party to pu ish bad behaviour within their own party? This is much easier with more parties with more nuanced choices.
      - atoav 4y ago
        Sadly the politicians manage to distract anybody from wanting tougher campaign financing and lobbying laws. I am not too deep into US politics, but if you wanna vote for tougher regulations on that there is one party that is not like the other based on the bills they proposed. But hey, that won't stop the majority from waving their stupid party-political flags and go full "but the other side"-mode.
- 20after4 4y ago
  Failings? Seems he was rather successful. I mean, he got away with it.
  - P_I_Staker 4y ago
    I think this illustrates the problem. You can't seem to recognize that failures of character are concrete failings.
    - 20after4 4y ago
      My apologies, I was being facetious. Of course he had failings but our society rewards rather than punishing them.
P_I_Staker 4y ago
Plus let people die of AIDS, because he thought it was gay. Then straight people started dying and it was a problem. Gay lives don't matter to Republicans.
dickeyrat 4y ago
Keep in mind, the proceeds from the weapons sales to Iran were used to finance Nicaragua's Contras, in the Amerikan attempt to create a right-wing puppet state in Central America.
MandieD 4y ago
Heck, the airport was even renamed for him, as a special slap in the face to the air-traffic controllers.
- jtotheh 4y ago
  I live there, I still try and refer to it as National Airport.
krolden 4y ago
Dont forget flooding america with cocaine to pay for those weapons.

So, Team Reagan left the hostages there longer, sold arms to an enemy and subverted the POTUS - why is there a statue of that !@# at Washington National Airport?????

kadoban 4y ago

Because Republicans are not at all interested in the failings of their leaders.

lockhouse 4y ago
That’s not a quality that is unique to Republicans.
- funstuff007 4y ago
  I agree that it's a reasonable approximation to say the Republicans are the bad guys, but that in no way makes it true that the Democrats are the good guys. In fact, the more odious the R's behave the worse the D's can do say and still say, "well, at least we're not them.".
  - lockhouse 4y ago
    Life isn’t a Marvel comic book. There aren’t good guys and bad guys in Washington, DC, just corrupt self serving politicians on both sides of the aisle that say what they think their constituents want to hear while doing the bidding of their campaign donors.
    - michaelmrose 4y ago
      In the last 55 years they've had Nixon Reagan Bush Sr Bush Jr and Trump. Compare this to Carter Clinton Obama and Biden. 4 of the 5 on team red blatantly attempted to subvert Democracy. One legalized indefinite detention and torture and Another outright attempted to take the government after losing. They might as well be comic book villains.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        > 4 of the 5 on team red blatantly attempted to subvert Democracy Wait, which 1 do you think didn't?
        michaelmrose 4y ago
        It's possible I'm less aware of the exploits of Bush Sr due to being very young then and it not being as notable as Nixon or Reagan.
        lapcat 4y ago
        First of all, Bush was Director of the CIA before he was VP, which is bad enough by itself. (Operation Condor, etc.) Bush was also close to Bill Casey (mentioned in the article), who ran Reagan's campaign, recruited Bush for the ticket, and became Reagan's Director of the CIA. Bush and Casey were both knee deep in Iran-Contra, a massive subversion of democracy and constitutional crisis in which the Reagan administration disobeyed an act of Congress. When Bush left office, he pardoned a bunch of Iran-Contra conspirators, thus covering his own ass too.
      - rendall 4y ago
        There won't be any reasonable, principled government in the US while people voluntarily divide themselves into these two arbitrary tribes and shout about how they are better than the other side. People actually believing this is how the Duopoly is maintained. If you can take a hard look at your own side, a really hard look, you'll see rot there too. Better to see it, know it, be aware of it. Support those who oppose it irrespective of the arbitrary label they choose to call themselves.
        atoav 4y ago
        Karl Popper described democracy as a system that is not defined by giving you the chance of getting people you like into power, but by giving you the chance to remove those you disliked. A duopoly that is this far apart in terms of ideology and goals is preventing that part. What needs to happen for a convinced Dem/Republican to vote for the opposing party to pu ish bad behaviour within their own party? This is much easier with more parties with more nuanced choices.
    - atoav 4y ago
      Sadly the politicians manage to distract anybody from wanting tougher campaign financing and lobbying laws. I am not too deep into US politics, but if you wanna vote for tougher regulations on that there is one party that is not like the other based on the bills they proposed. But hey, that won't stop the majority from waving their stupid party-political flags and go full "but the other side"-mode.
20after4 4y ago
Failings? Seems he was rather successful. I mean, he got away with it.
- P_I_Staker 4y ago
  I think this illustrates the problem. You can't seem to recognize that failures of character are concrete failings.
  - 20after4 4y ago
    My apologies, I was being facetious. Of course he had failings but our society rewards rather than punishing them.

P_I_Staker 4y ago

Plus let people die of AIDS, because he thought it was gay. Then straight people started dying and it was a problem. Gay lives don't matter to Republicans.

dickeyrat 4y ago

Keep in mind, the proceeds from the weapons sales to Iran were used to finance Nicaragua's Contras, in the Amerikan attempt to create a right-wing puppet state in Central America.

MandieD 4y ago

Heck, the airport was even renamed for him, as a special slap in the face to the air-traffic controllers.

jtotheh 4y ago
I live there, I still try and refer to it as National Airport.

krolden 4y ago

Dont forget flooding america with cocaine to pay for those weapons.