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I recently switched from Edge to Firefox Right there with you. Somewhere in my comment history here six years ago was my suggestion for Microsoft to give up on

by 300bps 4y ago

I recently switched from Edge to Firefox Right there with you. Somewhere in my comment history here six years ago was my suggestion for Microsoft to give up on Internet Explorer and create their own fork of Chromium. They could’ve gotten massive adoption if they did it right. Instead I had to turn off their useless auto-coupon feature, be ever vigilant to keep them from switching my search provider to Bing, frequently turn off the distracting new tab content, etc. Switched to Firefox and planning to dual-boot Windows 11 and Ubuntu soon.

Qem 4y ago
> Switched to Firefox and planning to dual-boot Windows 11 and Ubuntu soon. It doesn't help Microsoft apparently also managed to make dual boot more difficulty. Some years ago it was quite seamless, you could rely on automatic partition and it just worked. Today windows messes with the Linux bootloader after install, and to make it work I have to resort to advanced partition mode.
- cf100clunk 4y ago
  Yep, also see the section called ''About dual-boot with Windows and "fast-boot" enabled'' here if you rely on an Intel WiFi device: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
- WalterBright 4y ago
  I gave up on dual boot long ago. I just bought another box and networked it to the main one.
andrepd 4y ago
Why even go through all that trouble in the first place?
- Datagenerator 4y ago
  Just add two OS'es to UEFI BIOS. Bootloaders easily break.
  - pxc 4y ago
    Windows doesn't support multiple EFI System Partitions on one system¹, and it will nuke the default EFI boot image (bootx64.efi) on the ESP it uses whenever it updates or does startup repair. So if you do this make sure you have configured the Linux system to write EFI variables and know that if you ever clear them, you may lose the ability to boot Linux until you perform a repair. Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, especially if you're new to Linux. -- 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/cannot-boot-windows-on-primary-hard-disk-uefi https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien...
    - soupbowl 4y ago
      Buy a second SSD, install linux and duel boot by switching UEFI boot option. You can even reboot into UEFI from windows and Linux. It's about as easy as it gets with minimal effort. Or you can setup an efi bootloader on Linux disk that allows you to launch windows instead. These days duel booting is easier than ever, duel booting via a single hard drive has always been a clumsy way to do it.
    - 300bps 4y ago
      Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, especially if you're new to Linux. I’m gonna give it a go. I first installed Linux from a shareware CD I purchased from my local Micro Center in 1996. Still remember Slackware fondly! And qmail - great email program.
      - pxc 4y ago
        Sounds like you'll have to trouble managing your bootloaders should they break, and you might even enjoy learning some quirks about how both Windows and your distro of choice treat the ESP. Have fun! May the source be with you ;)
    - 4y ago

by 300bps 4y ago

Qem 4y ago

> Switched to Firefox and planning to dual-boot Windows 11 and Ubuntu soon. It doesn't help Microsoft apparently also managed to make dual boot more difficulty. Some years ago it was quite seamless, you could rely on automatic partition and it just worked. Today windows messes with the Linux bootloader after install, and to make it work I have to resort to advanced partition mode.

cf100clunk 4y ago
Yep, also see the section called ''About dual-boot with Windows and "fast-boot" enabled'' here if you rely on an Intel WiFi device: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
WalterBright 4y ago
I gave up on dual boot long ago. I just bought another box and networked it to the main one.

andrepd 4y ago

Why even go through all that trouble in the first place?

Datagenerator 4y ago
Just add two OS'es to UEFI BIOS. Bootloaders easily break.
- pxc 4y ago
  Windows doesn't support multiple EFI System Partitions on one system¹, and it will nuke the default EFI boot image (bootx64.efi) on the ESP it uses whenever it updates or does startup repair. So if you do this make sure you have configured the Linux system to write EFI variables and know that if you ever clear them, you may lose the ability to boot Linux until you perform a repair. Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, especially if you're new to Linux. -- 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/cannot-boot-windows-on-primary-hard-disk-uefi https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien...
  - soupbowl 4y ago
    Buy a second SSD, install linux and duel boot by switching UEFI boot option. You can even reboot into UEFI from windows and Linux. It's about as easy as it gets with minimal effort. Or you can setup an efi bootloader on Linux disk that allows you to launch windows instead. These days duel booting is easier than ever, duel booting via a single hard drive has always been a clumsy way to do it.
  - 300bps 4y ago
    Dual booting sucks. Don't do it, especially if you're new to Linux. I’m gonna give it a go. I first installed Linux from a shareware CD I purchased from my local Micro Center in 1996. Still remember Slackware fondly! And qmail - great email program.
    - pxc 4y ago
      Sounds like you'll have to trouble managing your bootloaders should they break, and you might even enjoy learning some quirks about how both Windows and your distro of choice treat the ESP. Have fun! May the source be with you ;)
  - 4y ago