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Sure, what harm could detailed self-injury instructions do to mentally-ill people?

sebzim4500 4y ago
If OpenAI actually believed this information was harmful they wouldn't have included it in the appendix and distributed through a pdf on their own website.
charcircuit 4y ago
Someone who wants to injure themselves can easily do so. Figuring out the risks or more information just allows people to make a more informed decision. In a way this can reduce harm in that it allows people to apply the level of injury to themselves that they wasnt.
- antegamisou 4y ago
  You have a completely flawed perception of how people belonging in this group reason. They aren't some HN 'rationalist' type nerd carefully weighing pros and cons of every action they take and unfortunately a lot of the time they may not even be adults. You also place too much trust on them doing it 'carefully' enough to not cause serious damage.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    If they didn't care about pros and cons of options they wouldn't ask the AI for options or to rate options. They would just do it.
    - antegamisou 4y ago
      I’ll just repeat that those people’s impulsive behavior can’t be broken down into any binary manner and won’t engage in further discussion.
sneak 4y ago
What harm, indeed? Mentally ill people who are intending to self harm can already find such information. Whether a text generator does or does not provide it does not cause or preclude any harm to the mentally ill.
- antegamisou 4y ago
  As I stated in a previous comment, you also don't seem to understand how impulsive these people can be. They aren't capable of following the detailed instructions about supposedly safe 'self-injury' without inflicting life-threatening injury. The parent comment, as well as the fact that you're making no distinction between information on harming yourself in an article and interacting with a bot that is instructing you in a human-like manner, especially when we're talking about the mentally unstable, on what to do is prohibiting enough to never have any insight on the subject.
  - sneak 4y ago
    > As I stated in a previous comment, you also don't seem to understand how impulsive these people can be. They aren't capable of following the detailed instructions about supposedly safe 'self-injury' without inflicting life-threatening injury. I'm aware of this. What does it have to do with the bot?

If OpenAI actually believed this information was harmful they wouldn't have included it in the appendix and distributed through a pdf on their own website.

charcircuit 4y ago

Someone who wants to injure themselves can easily do so. Figuring out the risks or more information just allows people to make a more informed decision. In a way this can reduce harm in that it allows people to apply the level of injury to themselves that they wasnt.

antegamisou 4y ago
You have a completely flawed perception of how people belonging in this group reason. They aren't some HN 'rationalist' type nerd carefully weighing pros and cons of every action they take and unfortunately a lot of the time they may not even be adults. You also place too much trust on them doing it 'carefully' enough to not cause serious damage.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  If they didn't care about pros and cons of options they wouldn't ask the AI for options or to rate options. They would just do it.
  - antegamisou 4y ago
    I’ll just repeat that those people’s impulsive behavior can’t be broken down into any binary manner and won’t engage in further discussion.

sneak 4y ago

What harm, indeed? Mentally ill people who are intending to self harm can already find such information. Whether a text generator does or does not provide it does not cause or preclude any harm to the mentally ill.

antegamisou 4y ago
As I stated in a previous comment, you also don't seem to understand how impulsive these people can be. They aren't capable of following the detailed instructions about supposedly safe 'self-injury' without inflicting life-threatening injury. The parent comment, as well as the fact that you're making no distinction between information on harming yourself in an article and interacting with a bot that is instructing you in a human-like manner, especially when we're talking about the mentally unstable, on what to do is prohibiting enough to never have any insight on the subject.
- sneak 4y ago
  > As I stated in a previous comment, you also don't seem to understand how impulsive these people can be. They aren't capable of following the detailed instructions about supposedly safe 'self-injury' without inflicting life-threatening injury. I'm aware of this. What does it have to do with the bot?