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I started out as a sysadmin before moving into dev and devs will think you're some sort of wizard just for understanding how file permissions or firewalls or ng

I started out as a sysadmin before moving into dev and devs will think you're some sort of wizard just for understanding how file permissions or firewalls or nginx work, it's kind of baffling.

deafpolygon 4y ago
What's funny is I know some amount of <insert language here> owing to me being a JOAT (jack of all trades), so when they run into some issues and I'm able to debug it they wonder why I'm a sysadmin and get paid less than they do. Why ARE sysadmins like me paid less than developers? And I can't get hired as a dev because they see my CV and go, oh you're a sysadmin. I mean, try being a solo sysadmin of over 100+ production Linux servers with minimal downtime... you need a little bit of scripting/coding to handle all that!
- siva7 4y ago
  If you're wording your CV the way it screams sysadmin right in your face the only offers you get will be sysadmin. Try emphasizing your coding experience more
  - deafpolygon 4y ago
    Correct, but it's also a common [false] view that sysadmins can't code. Even if I emphasize my limited) experience in code and leave out details about my sysadmin work, I get asked what did I do, etc. "Oh you're a sysadmin" and that's where the conversation ends. But let's gloss over the fact that I can set-up the testing and production environment on my own along with the DB, schema, do the routing, proxy and everything in between. Then, back it all up.
    - orwin 4y ago
      Try to market yourself as a devops. The pay is better than sysadmin, and if you're selective enough, the job can be great for you and your whole skillet. It took me 3 tries to get myself right where I wanted to be but when work doesn't really feel like work despite being at $BigCorp, life is enjoyable.
- brightlancer 4y ago
  I've found that most companies treat sysadmins as a cost center while developers were treated as a profit center. Even when companies specifically state otherwise, it's how they usually behave.

I started out as a sysadmin before moving into dev and devs will think you're some sort of wizard just for understanding how file permissions or firewalls or nginx work, it's kind of baffling.

deafpolygon 4y ago

What's funny is I know some amount of <insert language here> owing to me being a JOAT (jack of all trades), so when they run into some issues and I'm able to debug it they wonder why I'm a sysadmin and get paid less than they do. Why ARE sysadmins like me paid less than developers? And I can't get hired as a dev because they see my CV and go, oh you're a sysadmin. I mean, try being a solo sysadmin of over 100+ production Linux servers with minimal downtime... you need a little bit of scripting/coding to handle all that!

siva7 4y ago
If you're wording your CV the way it screams sysadmin right in your face the only offers you get will be sysadmin. Try emphasizing your coding experience more
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  Correct, but it's also a common [false] view that sysadmins can't code. Even if I emphasize my limited) experience in code and leave out details about my sysadmin work, I get asked what did I do, etc. "Oh you're a sysadmin" and that's where the conversation ends. But let's gloss over the fact that I can set-up the testing and production environment on my own along with the DB, schema, do the routing, proxy and everything in between. Then, back it all up.
  - orwin 4y ago
    Try to market yourself as a devops. The pay is better than sysadmin, and if you're selective enough, the job can be great for you and your whole skillet. It took me 3 tries to get myself right where I wanted to be but when work doesn't really feel like work despite being at $BigCorp, life is enjoyable.
brightlancer 4y ago
I've found that most companies treat sysadmins as a cost center while developers were treated as a profit center. Even when companies specifically state otherwise, it's how they usually behave.