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s/said/say/ And along with the GOP are working to remove those laws/restrictions. https://businessinsider.mx/fair-labor-standards-act-hiring-child-laws-worker

s/said/say/ And along with the GOP are working to remove those laws/restrictions. https://businessinsider.mx/fair-labor-standards-act-hiring-child-laws-worker-shortage-iowa-minnesota-2023-2/ https://businessinsider.mx/fair-labor-standards-act-hiring-c...

twiddling 4y ago
When you can't bring in sufficient numbers through immigration, you expand the labor pool in other ways.
- rgbrenner 4y ago
  There are sufficient numbers… they expand the labor pool to reduce pressure on employers to increase pay and benefits. Need people desperate if you want to keep paying $7.25/hr. The bottom end of the labor market has the most slack… it’s the last place in the labor market where you need additional supply.
gabereiser 4y ago
Somebody has to work the BBQ pit for $8/hr… Teens want $20/hr and don’t work. I bet we could get their little brother to do it for $8. /s
- nerdponx 4y ago
  You're being sarcastic, but other people aren't.
- sonotathrowaway 4y ago
  Actually, they’re using kids to clean slaughterhouses and assemble cars.
ToValueFunfetti 4y ago
And also the Democrats. https://newjerseymonitor.com/2022/07/06/teens-in-n-j-can-work-longer-summer-hours-under-new-law/ https://newjerseymonitor.com/2022/07/06/teens-in-n-j-can-wor...
- Animats 4y ago
  Huh. The Jersey shore has, for some reason, been the vacation spot run by teen labor. When you read these stories, the sense of entitlement of low-wage employers comes through strongly. If they aren't getting a steady supply of cheap labor, they get frantic and lobby for more cheap labor. Last week it was slaughterhouse workers. Countries that don't have a big underclass have to automate.[1] [1] https://scottautomation.com/en/industry/meat-processing https://scottautomation.com/en/industry/meat-processing
- mbesto 4y ago
  One of these things is not like the other: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2021/related/proposals/sb332 https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2021/related/proposals/sb33... https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4222/bill-text?f=A4500&n=4222_I1 https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4222/bill-te... I bet you can guess who proposed which bill.
  - ToValueFunfetti 4y ago
    If you want to argue that it's okay to roll back child labor laws to allow some children to work 50 hours per week over the summer but that it's not okay to roll back child labor laws to let children work as late as 9:30 on a school night, be my guest. I tend to agree that the Wisconsin bill is worse. The parent comment implied that it is always wrong to remove child labor laws, and that the GOP is the awful, backwards party that is doing it anyway. If you concede that it is okay to remove some child labor laws, in the words of the old joke, "Now we're just negotiating." I prefer that level of nuance over partisan ragebait. If you meant to say something else, posting the full content of both bills is not as illustrative of your point as you might think.
    - mbesto 4y ago
      > the GOP is the awful, backwards party that is doing it anyway. My favorite part about GOP apologists is that you don't even have to explicitly say what's wrong with their platform, and yet somehow they always know what the criticism against them is. > If you meant to say something else I meant exactly what was implied. Both parties are trying to roll back child labor laws. One is clearly way more sensible than the other. > I prefer that level of nuance over partisan ragebait. LOL. Re-read your original comment again. Pot ----> kettle.

twiddling 4y ago

When you can't bring in sufficient numbers through immigration, you expand the labor pool in other ways.

rgbrenner 4y ago
There are sufficient numbers… they expand the labor pool to reduce pressure on employers to increase pay and benefits. Need people desperate if you want to keep paying $7.25/hr. The bottom end of the labor market has the most slack… it’s the last place in the labor market where you need additional supply.

gabereiser 4y ago

Somebody has to work the BBQ pit for $8/hr… Teens want $20/hr and don’t work. I bet we could get their little brother to do it for $8. /s

nerdponx 4y ago
You're being sarcastic, but other people aren't.
sonotathrowaway 4y ago
Actually, they’re using kids to clean slaughterhouses and assemble cars.

ToValueFunfetti 4y ago

And also the Democrats. https://newjerseymonitor.com/2022/07/06/teens-in-n-j-can-work-longer-summer-hours-under-new-law/ https://newjerseymonitor.com/2022/07/06/teens-in-n-j-can-wor...

Animats 4y ago
Huh. The Jersey shore has, for some reason, been the vacation spot run by teen labor. When you read these stories, the sense of entitlement of low-wage employers comes through strongly. If they aren't getting a steady supply of cheap labor, they get frantic and lobby for more cheap labor. Last week it was slaughterhouse workers. Countries that don't have a big underclass have to automate.[1] [1] https://scottautomation.com/en/industry/meat-processing https://scottautomation.com/en/industry/meat-processing
mbesto 4y ago
One of these things is not like the other: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2021/related/proposals/sb332 https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2021/related/proposals/sb33... https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4222/bill-text?f=A4500&n=4222_I1 https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4222/bill-te... I bet you can guess who proposed which bill.
- ToValueFunfetti 4y ago
  If you want to argue that it's okay to roll back child labor laws to allow some children to work 50 hours per week over the summer but that it's not okay to roll back child labor laws to let children work as late as 9:30 on a school night, be my guest. I tend to agree that the Wisconsin bill is worse. The parent comment implied that it is always wrong to remove child labor laws, and that the GOP is the awful, backwards party that is doing it anyway. If you concede that it is okay to remove some child labor laws, in the words of the old joke, "Now we're just negotiating." I prefer that level of nuance over partisan ragebait. If you meant to say something else, posting the full content of both bills is not as illustrative of your point as you might think.
  - mbesto 4y ago
    > the GOP is the awful, backwards party that is doing it anyway. My favorite part about GOP apologists is that you don't even have to explicitly say what's wrong with their platform, and yet somehow they always know what the criticism against them is. > If you meant to say something else I meant exactly what was implied. Both parties are trying to roll back child labor laws. One is clearly way more sensible than the other. > I prefer that level of nuance over partisan ragebait. LOL. Re-read your original comment again. Pot ----> kettle.