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real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

by jeron 4y ago

cinntaile 4y ago
Amazon doesn't want to get into the adult industry.
- vkou 4y ago
  It also doesn't not want to get into it, because it could have banned hot tub streams, but chose to quarantine them instead. As sibling posts explained - it wants to be in a one-foot-in-one-foot-out sort of position on the question.
  - philwelch 4y ago
    Maybe I’m missing something about “hot tub streams”, but cute girls in bathing suits sitting in a hot tub doesn’t quite meet my definition of “adult content”. It might be unhealthy parasocial content for lonely boys, but it’s not porn.
    - Jensson 4y ago
      They are porn ads, those girls makes their money on only fans and they stream to get guys to pay them for porn. You can see this for example, she isn't allowed to pay for normal ads since most networks doesn't allow porn ads, but streaming is a way for her to advertise: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-her-onlyfans-earnings-154510173.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-her-on...
      - input_sh 4y ago
        Okay but how is that a Twitch problem? From what I know they can't link their OnlyFans directly on Twitch (they need at least one intermediary website) nor even acknowledge its existence directly on stream.
unethical_ban 4y ago
Horrible idea! By keeping softcore erotica nudge-nudge on their video game streaming site, they allow viewers to tell their parents and girlfriends that they're watching games and chat. Spinning it off would kill the market for that content without doing anything for the video game side of the house.
mjr00 4y ago
Sexual content on platforms is in such a weird place. It gets tons of views, but you can't have a platform that's only adult content or it scares off advertisers. But if you have a successful platform that has adult content and you try to remove it, the platform becomes nearly worthless: see Yahoo and Tumblr. A mainstream brand like Visa has no issues advertising on Twitter, despite the massive amounts of adult content on Twitter. Yet you'd never see a Visa advertisement on Pornhub. If you're running an ad-driven platform, you need to be in this weird Goldilocks zone where your platform has sexual content but isn't really known for sexual content. That's where Twitter, Twitch, Instagram and Reddit are, and it's why OnlyFans tried to push the "not just for porn" angle so hard for a while.
yamtaddle 4y ago
Eh—the draw of putting that content on Twitch is siphoning off part of a huge audience by sharing space on a popular non-porn platform. Separating the two would remove the reason people are streaming there instead of OF in the first place.
Supermancho 4y ago
I'm not sure how creating a more limited product (than OF), and reducing twitch viewership, would be innovative.
ChickenNugger 4y ago
They deliberately don't want that. Twitch is the top of the "marketing funnel" to onlyfans for a plethora of onlyfans streamers: https://i.imgur.com/jeOq6ek.png https://i.imgur.com/jeOq6ek.png OF spammers have also completely ruined NSFW reddit, because the simp mods do nothing about it.
- jazzyjackson 4y ago
  Same with instagram. I actually find it kind of shocking how obvious sex work is on twitter and instagram, it's generally frowned upon to pay for sex in the progressive circles I'm used to, but I guess on the internet we all live in San Francisco.

real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

by jeron 4y ago

real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

cinntaile 4y ago

Amazon doesn't want to get into the adult industry.

vkou 4y ago
It also doesn't not want to get into it, because it could have banned hot tub streams, but chose to quarantine them instead. As sibling posts explained - it wants to be in a one-foot-in-one-foot-out sort of position on the question.
- philwelch 4y ago
  Maybe I’m missing something about “hot tub streams”, but cute girls in bathing suits sitting in a hot tub doesn’t quite meet my definition of “adult content”. It might be unhealthy parasocial content for lonely boys, but it’s not porn.
  - Jensson 4y ago
    They are porn ads, those girls makes their money on only fans and they stream to get guys to pay them for porn. You can see this for example, she isn't allowed to pay for normal ads since most networks doesn't allow porn ads, but streaming is a way for her to advertise: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-her-onlyfans-earnings-154510173.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-her-on...
    - input_sh 4y ago
      Okay but how is that a Twitch problem? From what I know they can't link their OnlyFans directly on Twitch (they need at least one intermediary website) nor even acknowledge its existence directly on stream.

unethical_ban 4y ago

Horrible idea! By keeping softcore erotica nudge-nudge on their video game streaming site, they allow viewers to tell their parents and girlfriends that they're watching games and chat. Spinning it off would kill the market for that content without doing anything for the video game side of the house.

mjr00 4y ago

Sexual content on platforms is in such a weird place. It gets tons of views, but you can't have a platform that's only adult content or it scares off advertisers. But if you have a successful platform that has adult content and you try to remove it, the platform becomes nearly worthless: see Yahoo and Tumblr. A mainstream brand like Visa has no issues advertising on Twitter, despite the massive amounts of adult content on Twitter. Yet you'd never see a Visa advertisement on Pornhub. If you're running an ad-driven platform, you need to be in this weird Goldilocks zone where your platform has sexual content but isn't really known for sexual content. That's where Twitter, Twitch, Instagram and Reddit are, and it's why OnlyFans tried to push the "not just for porn" angle so hard for a while.

yamtaddle 4y ago

Eh—the draw of putting that content on Twitch is siphoning off part of a huge audience by sharing space on a popular non-porn platform. Separating the two would remove the reason people are streaming there instead of OF in the first place.

Supermancho 4y ago

I'm not sure how creating a more limited product (than OF), and reducing twitch viewership, would be innovative.

ChickenNugger 4y ago

They deliberately don't want that. Twitch is the top of the "marketing funnel" to onlyfans for a plethora of onlyfans streamers: https://i.imgur.com/jeOq6ek.png https://i.imgur.com/jeOq6ek.png OF spammers have also completely ruined NSFW reddit, because the simp mods do nothing about it.

jazzyjackson 4y ago
Same with instagram. I actually find it kind of shocking how obvious sex work is on twitter and instagram, it's generally frowned upon to pay for sex in the progressive circles I'm used to, but I guess on the internet we all live in San Francisco.