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Shipping at big companies can often be surprisingly hard so it's impressive to see how fast Microsoft is moving with AI integration into all their products.
by jatins 4y ago
Shipping at big companies can often be surprisingly hard so it's impressive to see how fast Microsoft is moving with AI integration into all their products.
- dopeboy 4y agoMy biggest takeaway from all of this. I’m very impressed with their velocity.
- rqtwteye 4y agoLet's see if it's the same type of velocity they have with Teams. Constant change that breaks things.
- costcofries 4y agoI hope you have a better day.
- outside1234 4y agoI mean objectively he is not wrong
- skc 4y agoWell an anecdote by definition can't be wrong. Teams is annoying to use at times, but I don't see any constant breaking changes
- winphone1974 4y agoIt's essentially the telephone of many, with the reliability of... A telephone built to the standards of your typical web application. You can't trust it for things like audio, file sharing or alerts which is pretty problematic
- olyjohn 4y agoMy day would be better if my basic communications tools worked as expected, and I didn't have to wrangle it into doing shit all day long.
- aldarisbm 4y agoI wonder how they figured out all of the vectors where they could improve automation/velocity. One wonders if they used AI for these recommendations.
- virtuosarmo 4y agoPerhaps the slowing in their PC and cloud sales is motivating to move faster on these initiatives.
- miguelazo 4y agoGiven how bad the Bing integration has gone, perhaps we should wait and see what the actual results are before we get too impressed.
- kolinko 4y agoBad? It works nicely, at least on iPhone.
- PaulWaldman 4y agoHow has the Bing integration been deficient?
- cryptoz 4y agoWell, it did threaten violence towards a user.
- zaroth 4y agoYou think they didn’t do that on purpose for all the free news cycles they got? If I was launching AI, having it be just a bit unhinged is obviously the best way to get it to go viral.
- necovek 4y agoThe common mistake of attributing to malice what could perfectly be attributed to stupidity. Sure, not your run of the mill stupidity, but even ML scientists do not understand why would a model make a particular choice.
- speedgoose 4y agoOn this topic, now that GPT-4 without Bing is available on ChatGPT Plus, it’s noticeable that Bing slows down the generation and can make the output much worse by including Bing crap in the context. But it’s also sometimes better at things the normal GPT doesn’t know about. I think it’s going to be the best search engine once they improve the speed.
- itsaquicknote 4y ago"In the months ahead..." They've not shipped this. They're planning to. You're reading a marketing piece about work in the pipe. Like so, so many other company product "launches" in this space that are "already testing with a small group of whatevers".
- mynameisvlad 4y agoI would argue that shipping to a limited test group qualifies in terms of measuring velocity, which is what the OP said they were impressed with. Launching to 10000 people vs 10000000 is a matter of scale (which is still important, but not the same thing as), not velocity.
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- somsak2 4y agoi didn't see a place where they said they had 10k users already
- mynameisvlad 4y agoMicrosoft employs somewhere above 200k people. 10k is only a 5% internal rollout. That seems entirely doable without any fanfare. The numbers are also completely made up, used to illustrate the point. Launching a product to X users is different than scaling up to X*1000 users, if that makes you feel better.
- lallysingh 4y agoThere's no reason to believe that what they're testing right now has any relation to what they show in the video.
- agloe_dreams 4y agoFWIIW, This seems rather similar to Github Copilot in VS Code. Been using it for a year, training data issues aside the product is absurdly good at times.
- mihaaly 4y agoIt is also impressive how slow they deliver the option of ungrouping taskbar icons, which is requested by masses for years now, and actually worked before. I know, I know, that is a much harder poblem than AI. Maybe they need to improve AI much more first so it could have superhuman powers, solving the task bar ungrouping problem finally for the humanity.
- warning26 4y agoI don't like a lot of things about the direction that Microsoft has taken Windows's UX, but this is absolutely an edge case that only a tiny % of users care about, and certainly not "masses" of anyone.
- Pxtl 4y agoMS has such a huge userbase that I'd wager any GUI feature that's accessible from the desktop has "masses" of users.
- mynameisvlad 4y agoThat just means "masses" as a concept gets diluted. It might be "masses" to a single outside observer, but a drop in the bucket to someone that has a picture of how big that mass truly is compared to the rest of the userbase.
- mihaaly 4y agoGoogle: windows ungroup taskbar icons There is even a paid app for that (beyond free ones)! : D
- RajT88 4y agoThere are on the order of Billions of Windows devices out there. When you make a change like this where there is no configurable option to go back to the old style of working you cause issues for tens of millions of people who developed a workflow that depended on that. There have been dozens of little things like this. Some got fixed in Win11 eventually (so they were obviously bugs). My example: in Windows Explorer you can start typing the name of a file and as long as you keep a quick pace, you will end up with that file highlighted. When Win11 shipped, it stopped matching at the first letter.
- bigmattystyles 4y agoI was ok with using edge on my corporate laptop (mostly to not install more than the stock software) but that un-hidable discover button that just appeared is making me question my ok-ness. Maybe I'm just angry at the VP who made the decision to let that in that's paid more than I'll ever be. I want to get paid to make boneheaded decisions too.
- ncpa-cpl 4y agoSame here. Chromium based Edge used to be nice at the beginning, it was a breath of fresh air after Chrome forcing Google services all the time. But Edge seems to get worse after each update. Recent updates have give me a new sidebar and video backgrounds on tabs. And a cloud based Microsoft Editor or something that I guess it sends everything I type to the cloud.
- concinds 4y agoBoth can be very easily disabled in the settings. I did, am and still pleased with Edge overall.
- probably_wrong 4y agoI am not as optimistic as you. As someone who had Teams imposed on them at the beginnings of the pandemic, I'd say: it is easy to ship anything fast when your users have no say on whether they want to use your product at all, no one cares that your laptop grinds to a halt when using it, and when no one will hold you responsible for delivering broken code. Will MS Copilot work? Maybe, maybe not. But as far as Microsoft is concerned it doesn't have to be good - it just has to exist so they can justify charging their corporate users a little bit more.