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Can Midjourney be used other than via discord bots yet?

by fenomas 4y ago

GaggiX 4y ago
Unfortunately no (reason why they are the biggest server on Discord with 13mln users)
- sho_hn 4y ago
  Forget about creating AGI -- the most amazing and unpredictable thing about the success of Midjourney is its success despite having the user interface of a 1998 DALnet xdcc warez channel.
  - danuker 4y ago
    Computers from 1998 couldn't run the monstrous amount of JS and/or surveillance that is Discord with any sort of performance. https://stallman.org/discord.html https://stallman.org/discord.html In fact, it looks like modern ones can't either: https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/ https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/
    - ridgered4 4y ago
      It is really frustrating to me that discord seems to have taken over half of the use cases that forums used to fill. Reddit stole most of the other half, but every time I look into discord I cannot understand the popularity and people's willingness to push past all of the privacy and access friction it introduces.
      - ryder9 4y ago
        what's so hard to understand about why people are attracted to social media. we're social creatures
- fenomas 4y ago
  Huh, thanks. Seems like a weird moat to hide it behind but I guess they know what they're doing..
  - GaggiX 4y ago
    I guess the social aspect makes the community stronger and the fact that you generate images (usually) in public channels is a way to stop most people to generate weird stuff.
    - aenvoker 4y ago
      This is the reason. Before Midjourney, www.eleuther.ai’s Discord had an image generation channel. There the benefits of generating socially were made obvious. People help each other, learn from each other, riff off each other. It accelerated technique evolution tremendously. Midjourney is a small team. They are working on a web interface. But, won’t release it until it is significantly better than all the benefits they get from Discord. Meanwhile, they’ve been too busy making quality improvements and scaling the service to keep up with demand.
  - nerdponx 4y ago
    A Discord server is a lot easier to moderate, block people, etc. than an HTTP API with access tokens. Plus then you have a sort of captive audience of Discord community members that receive all of your notifications by default.
jjbinx007 4y ago
If anyone has tried MJ and become frustrated at the chaos of losing their work in the various channels I strongly recommend you make your own server and invite the MJ bot to it. You can create channels to help organise your stuff but making your own server makes MJ almost a pleasure to use. I don't think I could use it if I had to use the main public server.
- stavros 4y ago
  I just send the bot a private message, solves everything.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  Interesting. That's the thing that's kept me from signing up for the premium tier -- the near-impossibility of finding your stuff unless you watch it like a hawk. It doesn't help that the Discord search function is so terrible.
  - corysama 4y ago
    Every user gets a personal, searchable gallery on the web site https://www.midjourney.com/ https://www.midjourney.com/
    - Turing_Machine 4y ago
      That's after the fact, though. If you want to actually interact/modify with a work in progress, you have to be in the cattle car channel and watch for it to show up, yes? (except maybe by having your own server and inviting the bot, as the OP suggested).
      - corysama 4y ago
        Once you’ve subscribed, you can work alone in DMs with the bot. No server necessary.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
throwaway_ab 4y ago
Yes, there is a website that many users including myself use to generate images without ever having to use Discord apart from authentication. It's a full blown web app with better options than the Discord bot, it has batch mode/select, remix, all upscale modes, works with every Midjourney engine. They make it available to users who have generated more than 10,000 images as it's in alpha state and not able to withstand the load that the bot currently takes. I believe after v5 focus they will make this web app public, but for now only a select few get to use it. They warn users not to talk about it or share the link because they don't want it public until it's ready for full load which means over 10 million concurrent users.
- Loveaway 4y ago
  Good to know :) I've been making a few things in Stable Diffussion. But to get assets that are suitable for production, you need to be able to generate lots of batches, pick and choose, iterate on prompt, do a bit of img2img, inpainting etc. Next project I want to heavly utilise image generation from the ground up - Midjourney looks really good, but needs better tools.

Can Midjourney be used other than via discord bots yet?

GaggiX 4y ago

Unfortunately no (reason why they are the biggest server on Discord with 13mln users)

sho_hn 4y ago
Forget about creating AGI -- the most amazing and unpredictable thing about the success of Midjourney is its success despite having the user interface of a 1998 DALnet xdcc warez channel.
- danuker 4y ago
  Computers from 1998 couldn't run the monstrous amount of JS and/or surveillance that is Discord with any sort of performance. https://stallman.org/discord.html https://stallman.org/discord.html In fact, it looks like modern ones can't either: https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/ https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/
  - ridgered4 4y ago
    It is really frustrating to me that discord seems to have taken over half of the use cases that forums used to fill. Reddit stole most of the other half, but every time I look into discord I cannot understand the popularity and people's willingness to push past all of the privacy and access friction it introduces.
    - ryder9 4y ago
      what's so hard to understand about why people are attracted to social media. we're social creatures
fenomas 4y ago
Huh, thanks. Seems like a weird moat to hide it behind but I guess they know what they're doing..
- GaggiX 4y ago
  I guess the social aspect makes the community stronger and the fact that you generate images (usually) in public channels is a way to stop most people to generate weird stuff.
  - aenvoker 4y ago
    This is the reason. Before Midjourney, www.eleuther.ai’s Discord had an image generation channel. There the benefits of generating socially were made obvious. People help each other, learn from each other, riff off each other. It accelerated technique evolution tremendously. Midjourney is a small team. They are working on a web interface. But, won’t release it until it is significantly better than all the benefits they get from Discord. Meanwhile, they’ve been too busy making quality improvements and scaling the service to keep up with demand.
- nerdponx 4y ago
  A Discord server is a lot easier to moderate, block people, etc. than an HTTP API with access tokens. Plus then you have a sort of captive audience of Discord community members that receive all of your notifications by default.

jjbinx007 4y ago

If anyone has tried MJ and become frustrated at the chaos of losing their work in the various channels I strongly recommend you make your own server and invite the MJ bot to it. You can create channels to help organise your stuff but making your own server makes MJ almost a pleasure to use. I don't think I could use it if I had to use the main public server.

stavros 4y ago
I just send the bot a private message, solves everything.
Turing_Machine 4y ago
Interesting. That's the thing that's kept me from signing up for the premium tier -- the near-impossibility of finding your stuff unless you watch it like a hawk. It doesn't help that the Discord search function is so terrible.
- corysama 4y ago
  Every user gets a personal, searchable gallery on the web site https://www.midjourney.com/ https://www.midjourney.com/
  - Turing_Machine 4y ago
    That's after the fact, though. If you want to actually interact/modify with a work in progress, you have to be in the cattle car channel and watch for it to show up, yes? (except maybe by having your own server and inviting the bot, as the OP suggested).
    - corysama 4y ago
      Once you’ve subscribed, you can work alone in DMs with the bot. No server necessary.
Turing_Machine 4y ago

throwaway_ab 4y ago

Yes, there is a website that many users including myself use to generate images without ever having to use Discord apart from authentication. It's a full blown web app with better options than the Discord bot, it has batch mode/select, remix, all upscale modes, works with every Midjourney engine. They make it available to users who have generated more than 10,000 images as it's in alpha state and not able to withstand the load that the bot currently takes. I believe after v5 focus they will make this web app public, but for now only a select few get to use it. They warn users not to talk about it or share the link because they don't want it public until it's ready for full load which means over 10 million concurrent users.

Loveaway 4y ago
Good to know :) I've been making a few things in Stable Diffussion. But to get assets that are suitable for production, you need to be able to generate lots of batches, pick and choose, iterate on prompt, do a bit of img2img, inpainting etc. Next project I want to heavly utilise image generation from the ground up - Midjourney looks really good, but needs better tools.